Comment on Reddit will lock some content behind a paywall this year, CEO says
2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Most of the terrible stuff Reddit did only affected a tech-literate minority, at least knowingly. Most users didn’t use 3rd party apps so they didn’t even understand what the uproar was about, and we should know perfectly well people don’t care about their privacy.
In contrast, this change is likely to affect day-to-day habits of at least some people.
There is also an inherent kind of entitlement that people have. Putting the lack of visibility of privacy on the totem pole of priority, people like free things. When you start to charge them for an objectively worse service, you tend to piss off your user base.
Privacy is invisible. Being barred from content unless you pay is highly visible. Most people only really care about whether their end user experience is affected. People cared when their favourite apps got shut down, but they don’t really give a shit their data is sold. We’ve been so desensitized to having our data sold these days that most people have stopped caring.
People don’t value their privacy…
Honestly Lemmy is not a great platform for privacy either. Lots of your data is federated to other servers that can do whatever they want with it.
A public forum (be it old school message boards, Reddit or Lemmy) is by definition not private. It’s more about the policies of a given platform; whether you do allow algorithmic content targeting and other schemes to “drive engagement”.
Yeah, I think the big selling point for me is not the privacy on Lemmy, but control of conversation.
At least Lemmy is open source and there isn’t any advanced analytics running and telling server operators exactly what you look at and for how long. And if there was, it would be discovered quickly and you could host your own instance and only look at content locally.
Your posts aren’t private. But that’s the whole point so that they can be seen and federated
No it wouldn’t. People need to understand that open source provides 0 security against intentional abuses when there’s a networking layer involved.
I could be running an analysis on the data your instance handed to my instance just like Reddit is … and you would have absolutely no way of knowing.
Yeah but there is a FOSS nature about it. At least ANYONE can do whatever they want with the comments and posts I make public instead of just whichever company pays reddit for API access.
I mean… True; it’s just I wouldn’t characterize Lemmy as superior on privacy. Ideally we’d figure out a way to fix that, but I’m not sure we can really.
And reddit has some legal jargon about co-owning the copyright to whatever you post over there but lemmy doesn’t so you technically have more protection here to your own intellectual property.
This I’m not so sure about. You aren’t handing over ownership rights when you sign up for most (any?) instance, but your ownership right is effectively null and void.
IANAL but arguably in a US court (at least) since Lemmy is effectively a true public place, you effectively lose the right to tell other people what they can do with your interactions.
And privacy is a whole different can of worms as I don’t think ruud is harvesting telemetry to sell to advertisers and whatnot.
That part is arguably true. It is harder to tie this data back to a particular user for the purposes of selling to advertisers.
At least yall dont literally legally own my whole ass identity while im on lemmy
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 year ago
Honestly that makes sense, they’re probably kicking themselves for it. They could have been the onlyfans or Patreon, and honestly back in the day I would have been for that