Privacy is invisible. Being barred from content unless you pay is highly visible. Most people only really care about whether their end user experience is affected. People cared when their favourite apps got shut down, but they don’t really give a shit their data is sold. We’ve been so desensitized to having our data sold these days that most people have stopped caring.
Comment on Reddit will lock some content behind a paywall this year, CEO says
2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 1 month ago
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Coelacanth@feddit.nu 1 month ago
JarasM@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Most of the terrible stuff Reddit did only affected a tech-literate minority, at least knowingly. Most users didn’t use 3rd party apps so they didn’t even understand what the uproar was about, and we should know perfectly well people don’t care about their privacy.
In contrast, this change is likely to affect day-to-day habits of at least some people.
gndagreborn@lemmy.world 1 month ago
There is also an inherent kind of entitlement that people have. Putting the lack of visibility of privacy on the totem pole of priority, people like free things. When you start to charge them for an objectively worse service, you tend to piss off your user base.
scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 1 month ago
Honestly that makes sense, they’re probably kicking themselves for it. They could have been the onlyfans or Patreon, and honestly back in the day I would have been for that
Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 1 month ago
People don’t value their privacy…
Honestly Lemmy is not a great platform for privacy either. Lots of your data is federated to other servers that can do whatever they want with it.
2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 1 month ago
I mean… True; it’s just I wouldn’t characterize Lemmy as superior on privacy. Ideally we’d figure out a way to fix that, but I’m not sure we can really.
This I’m not so sure about. You aren’t handing over ownership rights when you sign up for most (any?) instance, but your ownership right is effectively null and void.
IANAL but arguably in a US court (at least) since Lemmy is effectively a true public place, you effectively lose the right to tell other people what they can do with your interactions.
That part is arguably true. It is harder to tie this data back to a particular user for the purposes of selling to advertisers.
2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Dil@is.hardlywork.ing 1 month ago
At least yall dont literally legally own my whole ass identity while im on lemmy
TORFdot0@lemmy.world 1 month ago
At least Lemmy is open source and there isn’t any advanced analytics running and telling server operators exactly what you look at and for how long. And if there was, it would be discovered quickly and you could host your own instance and only look at content locally.
Your posts aren’t private. But that’s the whole point so that they can be seen and federated
Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 1 month ago
No it wouldn’t. People need to understand that open source provides 0 security against intentional abuses when there’s a networking layer involved.
I could be running an analysis on the data your instance handed to my instance just like Reddit is … and you would have absolutely no way of knowing.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 1 month ago
A public forum (be it old school message boards, Reddit or Lemmy) is by definition not private. It’s more about the policies of a given platform; whether you do allow algorithmic content targeting and other schemes to “drive engagement”.
Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 1 month ago
Yeah, I think the big selling point for me is not the privacy on Lemmy, but control of conversation.