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My proposal have been a little more complicated, but IMO works well for a BFU:

create some set of rules for “default instances” - every instance that wants to be in the list must follow them and will be periodically checked
- I don’t have any particular rules in mind, but some examples might include active moderation team, obviously registrations being open and if you really want to make it easy, either no application question or having it automatically approved by an automod of some kind
on join-lemmy, present a registration form that will create an account on a randomly selected instance from the pool and redirect there afterwards
there should be a link somewhere for “experts” where you could link to the current wizard

I’m willing to work on this if we can sit down and agree on the criteria for the pool. I can also ask my UX guy to help a little.

Feel free to text me here or on Matrix if this is something you think is worth pursuing. I’d also appreciate if you let me know it’s not the direction you want to go in.

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turtle@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
create some set of rules for “default instances” - every instance that wants to be in the list must follow them and will be periodically checked

I don’t have any particular rules in mind, but some examples might include active moderation team, obviously registrations being open and if you really want to make it easy, either no application question or having it automatically approved by an automod of some kind

The Mastodon Server Covenant is pretty much what you describe here, and could be used as a starting point: joinmastodon.org/covenant
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muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Here’s my idea for rules as well as the ones u came up with: No illegal shit No extremist ideology No hexbear or ml cos they will claim they are being unfairly censored and the irony of that is pretty funny.

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CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I would call them “starter” instances. And I’m in agreement there should be a set of principles that these instances should follow but at the same time telling new users that it’s okay to switch instances. I started in .world but moved due to their increasingly conservative changes.

While I personally would steer new users away from .world, I think it’s more important to tell them it’s okay to switch instances.

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Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

I don’t have any particular rules in mind, but some examples might include active moderation team, obviously registrations being open and if you really want to make it easy, either no application question or having it automatically approved by an automod of some kind

Hexbear meets those requirements, which rule would you add to exclude them? Back in the day, exploding heads would fit them too

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- ArtificialHoldings@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Personally I’m totally fine with just hand selecting starter instances rather than trying to maintain a facade of neutrality. So many instances defederate with hexbear that it’s a different experience and should probably be an intentional choice for the user.
  
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  - Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Interesting idea
    
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- Grimy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Cooking up global fediverse rules specifically meant to try and exclude an instance is crossing the line imo. If you don’t like interacting with them, join one of the many instances that have already blocked them.
  
  This kind of crusade goes against the spirit of the fediverse imo.
  
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  - ArtificialHoldings@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    These aren’t global fediverse rules, they’re constraints meant to apply specifically to the new user experience on Lemmy only.
    
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  - Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Have a look at that frontpage and tell me if you think an average potential new joiner is going to stick around: lemmygrad.ml
    
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    turtle@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    As long as it’s clearly labeled as something like “a communist instance”, why not? Some potential Lemmy users would probably feel right at home. It doesn’t even have to be a controversial label, just a factual description that the Lemmygrad people would agree with.
    
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- rikudou@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  That was just rules to make it work on the technical side - you’re not helping the user experience if you have to wait half a day until someone manually approves your registration.
  
  The rest would need to be discussed and actually thought out (and agreed upon with Lemmy devs, who own the join-lemmy domain).
  
  I haven’t given it much thought because I see no point if it never gets implemented.
  
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donuts@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I like this!

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