Comment on Hexbear federation megathread

• Awoo@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Sorry for the misunderstanding. No, you did not make the attack.

  However, it seems that things like “Your kulak grandparents deserved to die” are accepted and supported on Hexbear, as long as it doesn’t draw undue attention. Except your user forget their “time and place” for airing the dirty laundry. This garbage is not a free exchange of ideas; this a few steps away from actually beheading the non-believers. Just as I would support defederating from other extermist hate instances, Hexbear needs to go.

  Generally speaking yes. The Kulaks hoarded grain for their profit causing massive famines that killed millions of people. The important thing to understand here is that “Kulak” is not a race, it means wealthy farm owner, they were rich owners of large amounts of farmland that hoarded grain resulting in what was a overly forceful collectivisation process, BUT this process is often defended by socialists because (and I’m speaking generally) that most of the kulaks hoarded grain and were certainly responsible for people starving to death. Not all of them, but most.

  It’s a statement that you need to understand quite a lot of different things to properly parse.

  ChestRockwell: when I say “landlords are evil and deserve to die or surrender their assets to the collective” what I’m describing is a particular set of actions. It’s not different from having an opinion on if murderers deserve capital punishment.

  I see absolutely zero value in this “other viewpoint”. There is really no legitimate debate here.

  I’m not sure what problem you have here. The state says “hand it over” and if the property isn’t handed over willingly then the state uses guns to force it to happen. We already do this, it’s called expropriation. The population of Berlin recently voted to expropriate all property from landlords. What is the problem here?? If the landlords of Berlin do not hand over that property then they will be taken by people with guns. That’s how states work.

  I understand that you might not have seen it put in this kind of extremely blunt words before. But that comment is literally just saying “they can hand it over or they can die” which is frankly no different to how states operate currently. If these landlords in Berlin don’t hand it over they will be beaten into a pulp by police, and if they continue to resist they will be killed in the process. This is a blunt and explicitly accurate description of the process of property expropriation.

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  • Skua@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I think you've misunderstood the comment you're replying to. The quote is not a general thing they've seen somewhere, it was posted (and has now been deleted) by Hexbear user uralsolo on this thread directed at sunaurus.

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  • steltek@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A long winded manifesto justifying mass state executions for political enemies.

    This also neatly plays into my other reason for defederation: Hexbears seem acutely susceptible to lengthy preaching and insatiable defense of their ideology. Even if such ideology didn’t involve beheading the heretics, it’s unwelcome as an off-topic distraction in almost all situations and communities suffer as a result.

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    • Awoo@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      A long winded manifesto justifying mass state executions for political enemies.

      Oh my god I thought you wanted to act in good faith.

      I literally just showed you that the description of what we want to do is literally already what states currently do, what Berlin has voted to do and will soon carry out. If you don’t understand that the only difference here is the choice of language then I urge you to re-read what I wrote, many times. I have nothing more to say to you, and will not respond further to someone so clearly participating in bad faith.

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      • uSSRI@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        It was a great write up, even if it was lost on that particular user

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    • Mindfury@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      A long winded manifesto justifying mass state executions for political enemies.

      And as we are getting increasingly more used to from “general-purpose instances”, you have delivered a miniscule, flippant and pithy one-liner that does exactly what you accuse her of doing.

      Whether you realised or did this willingly is yet to be seen.

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    • ElGosso@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It seems pretty apparent that all of the most ardently anti-Hexbear users on here aren’t operating in good faith. Comments like yours make it pretty apparent. Just say that you don’t want Hexbear federated because it’s communist, and you’re a staunch anti-Communist.

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• Civility@hexbear.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  😔

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