Comment on I miss when you could get a flagship phone that could fit in your hand
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 day agoTruth of it all is that most people want tinner phones and/or wireless earbuds/headsets and the people who do not are for a big part audiophiles who want better audio quality than a phone is going to offer. So there is only a relatively small section of users who prefer the audio jack.
I think the real truth is most people just take whatever the phone corporations shovel down their throats without thinking too much about it as long as they have the newest model. Phones have been thin enough for years now. They’ve hit the point where they can’t make the camera as thin as the rest of the phone so it sticks out and won’t sit flat. It’s ridiculous. It’s not like they’ve replaced the features we lost with new better technology anyway. There’s no reason customer focused reason to remove those features. They did it to sell more shit and make their devices less repairable. Expecting people to carry two or more devices when one could do everything is asinine. Also my phone has a Hi-fi DAC and gives fantastic audio quality through the headphone jack.
Vinstaal0@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
What phone do you have then?
Apparently the market is not big enough for phone’s to really exist with all the features everybody want for an acceptable price. Otherwise more options with good sound quality and SD card slots exist. But the nature of how DAC’s works is that it is hard to fit that in a slim phone and especially if you want long battery life etc.
Maybe taking two devices is a bit stupid, but on the other hand you can also ask yourself how often you can leave your phone at home or wherever when you want to listen to music.
I would also prefer a phone that has a good DAC, has a SD card and has good working apps. So unless Apple is going to start making that again (they never will), I’ll probably stick with an iPhone and a separate audio device or wireless buds/headphone. Android is not for me and finding the correct Android is a bullshit mess. But I know of others who are interested in an Android device with a good DAC.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 6 hours ago
I have an LG V20. It has all the features I asked for and then some and was made 8 years ago. It’s 6-7mm thick. The market exists. It’s just not the largest segment so they don’t care.
Vinstaal0@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
It’s not that it isn’t the biggest market it’s just that it’s not big enough to be worth while. An 8 year old Android is not going to be supporting all apps, which often makes it unsuitable for people as well. That doesn’t help the whole ordeal either.
Probably because people (like audiophiles) buy things like the Fiio M15S or cheaper alternatives if they really want good sound quality. Idk any who wants to spend 1100 euro on a MP4 player that is bigger than most phone’s, but hey.
lightnsfw@reddthat.com 4 hours ago
Only because there isn’t a phone to offer the required functionality. (Unless you keep your last good option as long as possible like I’m doing, which has it’s own drawbacks). As I said before these features already existed and they removed them from new models for anti-consumer reasons. Not because there isn’t a market. It’s not like new phones got cheaper or had new features added when they took the other stuff out. They did it to sell more wireless headphones, make it harder to replace work batteries, and lock us all into their streaming and cloud services. The market isn’t served because they don’t want to serve it. They want the market to serve them.