Comment on Silicon Valley’s ultra-individualist philosophy wants to conquer the world

• rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Umberto Eco considers Stalin’s USSR as one of the main examples of fascism.

  Fascist “market” economies have anti-individualist propaganda similar to Soviet one, - about everyone selflessly working for the common goal, accepting hierarchies, normalcy.

  Fascism itself is anti-individualist, it’s one of the main traits of it, that an individual is a building block for it and nothing more. Except for the will of the people\nation.… expressed in the personalities of the leaders.

  Free market economies eventually produce monopolies, because the rest start as monopolies. USSR, again, was basically one humongous corporation, even its planning mechanisms were similar to those that exist inside big corporations. And like many a humongous corporation, it broke up into a few pieces because of C-suite politics.

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  • misk@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    I encourage you to stop idolising individualism because it’s not a virtue by itself. There is a significant difference between state and private monopoly that liberals tend to conveniently ignore. I’m a citizen, not a shareholder.

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      There is a significant difference between state and private monopoly that liberals tend to conveniently ignore. I’m a citizen, not a shareholder.

      This conversation is fruitless because you have neither lived in USSR nor studied it.

      But in general for a person living in USSR “citizen” was their sorry reality and “shareholder” (in different words, but that’s how “common ownership of means of production” was applied - we have a hierarchical structure, a state, commonly owned by all the citizens and in turn administering the public property, which would be everything in economy) was something they were being told from TV they are, but in fact weren’t. One was better than the other.

      Things structurally same are same in operation. Names and ideologies matter zero. State monopoly is worse than private monopoly, because it’s absolute monopoly.

      I encourage you to stop idolising individualism because it’s not a virtue by itself.

      It is a virtue by association with truth, because choices you make are individual and responsibility for them is individual. No matter what you imagine, agree with, sign to, support etc.

      Computer games with easy satisfaction and easy construction of unnatural mechanisms have hurt humanity, I think. The virtue of something being just true eludes many people.

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      • misk@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        I live in a post-soviet republic, please rethink what you’ve just said XD

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• shortrounddev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  Except the 99% of times it hasnt

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  • misk@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    What’s the 1% that did? I want to see where the bar is.

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    • shortrounddev@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Italy, Germany, Chile

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      • misk@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Why use examples of ones that are no longer fascist. I mean, in Italy we have a post-fascist government after all. There are also some fascist states that have endured quite long like Russia or United States. And that’s for plain fascism. Monopolies and the rich extracting money from societies are as big of an issue because unaddressed they lead to fascism pretty much always.

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