Comment on Australia spends $714 per person on roads every year – but just 90 cents goes to walking, wheeling and cycling

• Nottalottapies@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Where do you get the ridiculous assertion that a bicycle is just a hobby? Plenty of people cycle to work, shops, visit friends etc. I am one of them.

  Brisbane City Council openly publishes counts of cycle paths around Brisbane. There are literally thousands of people using these on weekdays to commute.

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  • TheHolm@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Bicycles are not essential. Get rid of bicycles and nothing will happen, get rid of the trucks and cars and everything stops. It is people choice to use them, not necessity. Which is a definition of a hobby.

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    • Nottalottapies@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Haha tell me, what car or trucks were used by the silk road traders to move people or cargo across continents? Did the Romans wait 2000 years for cars to be invented before they could use the roads the my built?

      If you want a more modern example, cargo ebikes can carry a family and some can carry payloads up to 500kgs. Ever seen bike couriers, pizza deliveries on bikes? Trains are pretty good for freight too.

      Your car brain is showing. Cars and trucks are a modern convenience, that is all. They are dangerous to humans, wildlife and the environment, but the only reason you think they are essential is because that’s what you grew up with and our infrastructure builders (govco) have prioritised them over other forms of transport - or more efficient forms of transport such as a bike. Fuel companies and car manufacturers do political donations…

      If I want to go to a shop for a litre of milk, why do I need to lug a 1600kg lump of steel with me? Its inherently ridiculous to travel in this fashion for short to medium distances. Not suggesting we get rid of cars, but other forms of transport should be prioritised. You will never, ever solve congestion no matter how many lanes you add or roads you build. The only way is to reduce the amount of vehicular traffic using them.

      And what about those who cannot drive, be it for age, medical reasons, lack of income to afford a car etc?

      I can get everywhere by bike, train or bus. No need for a car. I have one, but by your reasoning, my car to me is just a hobby.

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      • TheHolm@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Roman example is just not applicable, we are in 21th century now.

        “Cars and trucks are a modern convenience, that is all”. Do you really see that modern economy can function without cars and trucks? No, this is why we have to live with all their drawbacks,costs and dangers. There is simple no alternatives.

        “I can get everywhere by bike, train or bus. No need for a car. I have one, but by your reasoning, my car to me is just a hobby.” And what made that possible, truck and cars. When you ride your bike to shop to buy a milk, how that milk get there ? By truck.

        “And what about those who cannot drive, be it for age, medical reasons, lack of income to afford a car etc?” and what about those who can’t ride?

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• Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  You needs trucks but bicycle is just a hobby

  bullshit

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  • TheHolm@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    reality.

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    • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You’re delusional mate.

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      • TheHolm@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Any arguments? Discussion needs some, otherwise it just tossing shit to each other. Completely pointless, and harms both sides.

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