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Posteo is another alternative for Mail that a lot of people overlook.(And far more “real privacy” than fucking Proton)

Bitwarden sadly still is a US company and while it hosts in EU as well, some might not think this is enough. In that case Vaultwarden can be selfhosted easily.

It is not that much work to actually get rid of most possibly unreliable US services,but it’s far more work to get other people to switch as not all services are interoperable yet…

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hagelslager@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Question: why would you store passwords with an external service?

I have a local database synched with SyncThing between phones and computers and an external copy on a server.

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- philpo@feddit.org ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  And your local database is encrypted?
  
  Vaultwarden is selfhosted and audited.
  
  Besides: Not everyone wants to selfhost and not everyone should self host.
  
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  - hagelslager@feddit.nl ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    It is encrypted: keepass.info/features.html
    
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  - designated_fridge@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Especially a password vault… Imagine your server going down while you are away from home and suddenly you’re locked out of everything.
    
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- sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Sometimes I need a password when I don’t have my devices with me, and logging into the Bitwarden web vault is super convenient. Also, everything is encrypted on the client, and the client is FOSS, so there’s very little risk.
  
  You can also host your own Bitwarden server, or use an independent alternative (Vaultwarden).
  
  Bitwarden provides a lot of convenience without much compromise.
  
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  - hagelslager@feddit.nl ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Thank you for your explanation!
    
    I exclusively log in on my phones or computers, so the devices which have the copies of the database. (With a backup to an external server under my control.)
    
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    philpo@feddit.org ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    And then your house burns down,you get robbed or the cops come and take your devices away.
    
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JOMusic@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Good points. I do believe Bitwarden is open-source though, so it can probably be forked off into a version that doesn’t host data in the US.

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- sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  You can always self-host it as well.
  
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