Comment on The State of Lemmy (drama)

• imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Well this is awkward, I was actually talking to Margot… 😅. But I would be equally depressed if you were to leave, verity. Obligatory shout out to @Cracks_InTheWalls, another one of my favorites.

  It’s nice to have funny and kind people on Lemmy. The battle for levity is never-ending, and more brave soldiers fall to misery with each passing day. But a well placed shitpost can usually revive our fallen comrades.

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  • Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Wait, you’re American?! Fuck you! blocked

    Kidding, of course - you’re one of my favourites too. Think you could’ve chosen your words more carefully in the OP exchange - jealousy is a bit of a trigger word, it’s more than the U.S.’ reputation internationally is … sketchy, even before the last periods of particular sketchiness. But some people just expand this to all individual Americans, which isn’t fair - most Americans I’ve met are just normal people just as bewildered as the rest of us are at the state of the world (and the U.S’ place in it).

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    • imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yeah jealousy was not the best word to use. And also it’s understandable that people don’t want to cheer on the US or Americans at all.

      But on the other hand, the change that we are all looking for is going to have to ultimately come from Americans on some level. There isn’t any plausible way that another nation can violate the geopolitical status quo in a major way without the US leveraging its economic and military power to prevent things from being disrupted. That’s been proven many times by all of the interventions the US has done towards communist states and parties all around the world. Any kind of revolutionary political or economic movement in another country is likely to get sabotaged by American espionage, military force, or economic sanctions.

      So at the end of the day, acting all angry towards Americans just reinforces the current system, because it causes people to dig in their heels and change from a progressive mindset to a defensive one. You need to have Americans on the inside to effect change, and Lemmings are the type of Americans who are already walking that path, only to get shoved off the path by tankies and others who continually abuse them, until they get sick of it and return to the corporate internet, where they can at least feel some superficial validation. In an ideal world, people wouldn’t be so weak-minded, but they are, and we need to understand that if we are interested in changing their opinions, and ultimately the changing the nature of the government that they allow to exist.

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      • Blaze@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        only to get shoved off the path by tankies and others who continually abuse them

        Have you considered defederating SJW from Lemmy.ml? That would be a bold move, but could help in this context

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  • verity_kindle@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Word. Powerful message I’d like to see pinned everywhere at this time of year. Might help a user to put off doing something drastic for another day. Of course, I’d give such a message a Christian spin and ruin it. XD

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