A majority sure but probably not too much beyond 60%. There’s a lot of pretty evident bad behavior on the mods side
dohpaz42@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
In my personal experience, the people I see posting to !modabuse@lemmy.sdf.org deserved the actions the mods took, and are looking to whine to someone.
stoly@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s a very mixed bag, dependently largely on the personal views of the moderators at-large relative to the speakers. For the most part, the mods at .world seem egalitarian and amicable to liberalish dissenting views. We haven’t seen a slew of censorship/bannings over arguments about veganism or Israel/Palestine or capitalism vs socialism.
But the “y’all deserve to get banned” mentality is largely tied up in the idea that their ideas are bad for being outside the spectrum of your allowable discourse. Meanwhile, a community like .ml or Truth Social doing a censorship/ban on content is morally repugnant because its limiting conversations that are inside the spectrum of your allowable discourse.
The mechanics are the same, everyone’s just arguing where the lines should be drawn.
gravityowl@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Not to be that guy, but exactly what kind of conversation are we supposed to have with fascists and people openly calling for an end to both your and my liberties?
Ideas are debatable, but there’s no debating that we all deserve to live and to exist. But I’ve ever only encountered people from the right falling into that category. My own existence to them is offensive and worthy of murder. I want to have no conversation with such people, but you seem to be willing to tolerate that for the sake of “just having a conversation”.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Depends heavily on who you’re dealing with. Obviously, very hard to talk to a cop in the middle of cracking your skull open. But a lot of Americans are polarized into fascism through mass media and other forms of propaganda. You have to talk to them like you’d talk to anyone else. And you have to get them disconnected from the fascist media stream as best you can.
It’s less about a specific conversation and more about building trust relative to their mass media of choice. No single thing you say is going to outweigh a daily dose of right wing agitprop. So divorcing people from that mass media has to be the first step, either by keying them in on how and why the network is uncomfortable to listen to or by engaging them with alternatives.
The fascist theory is, at it’s heart, that egalitarian coexistence is impossible. You are in a tribal war of domination and you either win or you die.
The counter has to be evidence to the contrary. Introducing friends and family to people who are “the enemy” but are clearly no threat. Reminding them of who they’re being asked to reject.