Comment on Plebbit is a peer-to-peer Reddit alternative that allows you to self host and own your own community

Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  unmoderatable free-for-all

  I read through the whitepaper, and it has moderators similar to Reddit/Lemmy. Basically, whoever creates the community (subplebbit) is the owner/admin (they like to say “adminless,” but each community has an admin), and they can select moderators, who can do moderation tasks like deleting posts.

  So it should have the same benefits and problems as Reddit since it’ll all come down to the moderation team the admin selects.

  If you think of it like Lemmy, but instead of instance admins you have community admins, you’ll be more right than wrong.

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  • kchr@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    In fact, trust isn’t manually handled, it’s handled based on how similarly you act vs others (i.e. you both upvote/downvote similarly, flag posts similarly, etc), and I’m deciding whether making this based on community makes sense (i.e. you trust user A on community X, but not on community Y).

    Wouldn’t this just create an impenetrable filter bubble/echo chamber where you see nothing else than content you 100% agree with?

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      For many users, probably. I do have plans to have a “moderation queue” or something where you can opt in to seeing stuff that was hidden and adjust your moderation preferences.

      On Reddit, the recommendation was to upvote constructive comments even if you didn’t agree, and downvote unconstructive comments even if you do. People didn’t do that, so we got echo chambers.

      On mine, I plan to have four responses to a comment:

      • relevant
      • flag (irrelevant, spam, or distasteful content)
      • agree
      • disagree

      Users could adjust the weights of each, but by default “relevant” and “flag” would be much more highly weighed than “agree” and “disagree.” You can also block users. All of those are taken into account by the moderation graph to decide which content to show and in what order.

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  • Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You misread, the unmoderatable free-for-all is about the domain name system alternative

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      domain name system

      What do you need moderation for that for? All a domain name service needs is some kind of reputable link between two things (e.g. domain name and IP), and Plebbit seems to be using it to reserve community names (so name -> public key, or maybe the other way, I haven’t looked into it). The reputation comes from the blockchain, which dramatically increases the barrier for an attacker to change an entry. Instead of a central authority, you have a group of individuals (ETH is based on proof-of-stake now, and I assume ENS is as well) who verify claims before it becomes part of the blockchain.

      To me, it’s the least problematic part of it, I’m more concerned about communities having owners, and thus communities can die if the owner decides to stop hosting it or decides to dramatically change the rules (or moderators, etc). One of the major points of decentralization is to remove the power of individuals to change/break things, and Plebbit doesn’t do that.

      That said, we’ll see how it works out. I think it has some interesting ideas, and I’m all for alternatives to the established players in the social media space.

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      • Boomkop3@reddthat.com ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Have you been living under a rock? Just allow me to register plebbbit.eth and make it simple steal user accounts then redirect to the actual website. This, and plenty of other tricks need to dealt with

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