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Comment on Chicago keeps its New Year's resolution: All city buildings now use 100 percent clean power

hash@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

In defence of this argument: I’ve thought the same thing about projects in my city. Like say there’s capacity for new solar. The power company could build it and make a small impact on the power mix, or they could earmark it for a project/building and let them say they’re “100% renewable.”

Mostly just politics bs, but still feel like this could be somewhat deceptive in the wrong context.

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LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Its not to say that new renewables arent good. It’s just dishonest. Take a look at this paragraph:

Chicago alone has agreed to purchase approximately half the installation’s total output, which will cover about 70 percent of its municipal buildings’ electricity needs. City officials plan to cover the remaining 30 percent through the purchase of renewable energy credits.

So it’s not powered by renewables. It’s literally just earmarking (and funding)

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- booly@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Sometimes it’s hard to explain negative numbers in real world contexts, but credits are real impact to total coal/gas demand.
  
  If the credits are used to fund someone else buying renewable energy in lieu of fossil fuels, then the impact is that fewer fossil fuels are consumed.
  
  So if I pay someone $10 to buy solar energy instead of coal they were otherwise going to buy, while I buy that same amount of coal, then the net effect is zero additional demand for coal. You can say that it’s just an accounting exercise, but the real world effect is actually real.
  
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- cron@feddit.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  But how would you expect that a city can achieve “using 100% clean power” without earmarking? Should they run their own, independent power grid?
  
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  - LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Yes
    
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  - hash@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    The important difference is that the power is allocated to a specific small subset of very public buildings rather than a municipality or even a neighborhood.
    
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