Comment on Is China striding past Europe, America and Japan on nuclear fusion?

sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• sonori@beehaw.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I mean either way, Fusion is such a long way off that it doesn’t really have much of an impact on climate seeing as we need to reach net zero decades before any significant number of plants could come online. While worthwhile from a scientific and long term perspective looking 50 to a 100 years into the future, we built the first fission reactor in a spare room under some sports seating in Chicago and it’s still to complex and expensive to be cost effective compared to battery backed solar and wind, so a process that’s so expensive and difficult that we haven’t even done it yet probably isn’t going to change anything in the next few decades.

  Honestly, the place where I see nuclear fission making the strongest case is when it comes to large ocean crossing cargo ships. The extra crew and tech make it more expensive than fuel oil, but not massively so, and as such it could work out as being cheaper for very large ships than any other method of decarbonization.

  Of course that only matters if we’re actually serious about forcing decarbonization in all sectors and not just the current method of just where it is cheaper than massively subsidized oil, so maybe we’ll see more pressure to do so in a decade or so. For now, when we’re limited principally from the amount of money we are willing to invest in building clean energy, the long wait times and low return on investment make it seem increasingly like a way to slow solar and wind’s growth, and thusly buy oil and gas a few more years of market share, which is probably why said oil and gas companies went from fighting nuclear with every add campaign they could muster in the 90s and 2000s to their current support for it.

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  • sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Of course that only matters if we’re actually serious about forcing decarbonization in all sectors and not just the current method of just where it is cheaper than massively subsidized oil, so maybe we’ll see more pressure to do so in a decade or so. For now, when we’re limited principally from the amount of money we are willing to invest in building clean energy, the long wait times and low return on investment make it seem increasingly like a way to slow solar and wind’s growth, and thusly buy oil and gas a few more years of market share, which is probably why said oil and gas companies went from fighting nuclear with every add campaign they could muster in the 90s and 2000s to their current support for it.

    This whole final paragraph… magnificent!

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