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Comment on U16 Social Media Ban - Senate 1hr debate before the vote, some time tonight on the livestream

It’s not even clear yet what form the ID checking will take. They’ve rushed this through way too fast and without proper consultation. But there does seem to be some sort of a plan that the ID checking would be done by a government service in some manner, rather than users needing to send ID directly to the platform.

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eatham@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Govt service is still bad, still links everyones social media accounts to their ID. The bill will do jackshit anyways, as under 16s will simply move to social media hosted outside of Australia.

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- Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  So of the top ofnyour head, a VPN will allow you to skirt this law?
  
  I don’t use social media beyond lemmy but be fucked if I want to give my I.D to anyone in relation to my online activities
  
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  - eatham@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    Well, a VPN fakes your country, and the law only applies in Australia. Also, it is an unenforceable law anyways so I doubt it would do much
    
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    TimePencil@infosec.exchange ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    @eatham
    Yes, but Social Media apps can derive location data through other means, including time zone and language settings, visible WiFi Access Points, not to mention GPS.
    The Libs passed the legislation because they're corrupt.
    Labor passed it because they're incompetent.
    Either way, it's likely that the AustGov will be the gatekeepers of 'onboarding' and re-verification of existing users.
    It's a disgrace.
    @Aussiemandeus
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Taleya@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
“are you over 16” clicks yes well your honour they clearly provided false data so it’s not our farkin’ problem.

because honestly what fucking 16 year old has a proof of age card

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- Baku@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  because honestly what fucking 16 year old has a proof of age card
  
  I know this is a rhetorical question, but the answer in Victoria is 0. Proof of age cards can’t be applied for until 17y 11m, or used until 18. The other states set that at 15/16 for the most part (I think)
  
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melbaboutown@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Last I saw the suggestions were drivers license, face scan, or digital id. They’ve probably walked that back though or will do so because hell nah

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oahi@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Govt service, or privatised ID assurance face-scanning service wrought with error?

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- Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Like I said, it’s not clear yet what form it will take.
  
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