Comment on 'Cooker, anti-vaxxer, sheep': The people Australia's COVID-19 response forgot

BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

• NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I agree, part of keeping trust in collective health measures is trusting people when they say they are hurt by them and trying to help.

  These people did a prosocial and sensible thing, they got hurt in freak accidents, they deserve respect and compassion.

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• Salvo@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The problem with global media is that every single outlier event gets hyped to such a degree that it appears to be a common occurrence.

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  • Doom@ttrpg.network ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    bird flu just got like three people sick and everyone at my work talks about it

    Covid killed almost a thousand last week

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• sqgl@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Unfortunately it is hard to prove things like CFS (regardless of vaccines). If we believe all claims then some will rort the system. I have no opinion on how to deal with it.

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  • NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    How many actually will vs how many innocents you just abandon. Like how many people actually presented to doctors or hospital after getting vaxxed, missed work etc.

    I think this fear of other human beings behaving in ways you probably would never dream of, nor would you expect of almost everyone you know, is misguided.

    Society can afford a few mooches if it’s the price of helping the needy. We support an entire class of mooches with stuff like CGT discounting and that doesn’t help anyone.

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    • sqgl@beehaw.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Only Harvey Norman is excused from mooching because… reasons.

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      • sqgl@beehaw.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Oh and Centrelink themselves via #robodebt.

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• makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  In Australia, doctors could lose their licenses for stepping outside the official line.

  Nobody could be honest in the medical world, at that time. Maybe still? I’m not sure, but unlikely. Those nurses and doctors were probably too scared to speak the truth I’d imagine.

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  • BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Implying doctors or the nurses providing the vaccines withheld information around side effects?

    I don’t believe that for a moment.

    I was given detailed information when getting these vaccines.

    And a discussion with my wife who was a nurse at one of the vaccination centres, covering themselves regarding potential side effects was the priority.

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    • makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      This was the situation in Australia:

      news.com.au/…/0c1fa02818c99a5ff65f5bf852a382cf

      Some key quotes from the former Australian Medical Association (AMA) president.

      “This is an issue that I have witnessed first-hand with my wife who suffered a severe neurological reaction to her first Pfizer vaccine within minutes, including burning face and gums, paraesethesiae, and numb hands and feet, while under observation by myself, another doctor and a registered nurse at the time of immunisation,” the 65-year-old said.

      The diagnosis and causation has been confirmed by several specialists who have told me that they have seen ‘a lot’ of patients in a similar situation.”

      Her comment which is what I was referring to:

      “Regulators of the medical profession have censored public discussion about adverse events following immunisation, with threats to doctors not to make any public statements about anything that ‘might undermine the government’s vaccine rollout’ or risk suspension or loss of their registration,” she said.

      It was very real here. I’m not sure where you’re from, but here, if anyone didn’t say exactly what they were told, consequences were real.

      Hence, those nurses in the linked story from OP, I personally feel probably knew, but were fearful. I can say that for sure though. Based on how things were at the time, it would make sense.

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      • BlueSquid0741@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Bendigo, mate. This is the Australia group. I know what it was like, my wife was pregnant and on the front lines of COVID response at St Vincent’s Hospital Melbourne.

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