Comment on Elon's Death Machine (aka Tesla) Mows Down Deer at Full Speed , Keeps Going on "Autopilot"

• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  No, I’m saying that one video of a Tesla hitting a deer doesn’t prove that they’re less safe or just as likely as human to hit things when using assisted driving.

  Show actual stats of accidents per miles driven compared to cars without assisted driving and then we’ll be able to talk.

  If we had videos of every Toyotas or Hyundai or Ford that hit deers while being driven by a Jinan, this video of a Tesla doing it would just be a drop in a pool of water, but because it happened with an assistant behind the wheel people are acting like it means assisted driving doesn’t make cars safer.

  TL;DR: It’s an anecdote, without actual stats it’s just noise to influence people’s opinion

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  • horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Do you own Tesla stock?

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    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Nope and I’ll be the first to say that Musk is a fucking moron, but there’s tons of shit to attack him on, pretending that Tesla cars are more deadly than human driven cars with anecdotal evidence is just stupid.

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      • horse_battery_staple@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Tesla FSD doesn’t exist. Musk lies and says it does to pump Resla stock. Tesla drivers think they have FSD so they pay less attention and are then more likely to have an accident.

        techcrunch.com/…/zoox-co-founder-on-tesla-self-dr…

        theverge.com/…/tesla-autopilot-fsd-nhtsa-investig…

        forbes.com/…/former-head-of-tesla-ai-explains-why…

        www.nhtsa.gov/…/automated-vehicles-safety

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  • jj4211@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Problem is the data is rigged. It’s road miles driven that autopilot deigned to activate for with cars that rarely need their friction brakes that are less than 10 years old versus total population of cars with more age and more brake wear and when autopilot says ‘nope, too dangerous for me’, the human still drives.

    The other problem is people are thinking they can ignore their cars operation, because of all the rhetoric. A human might have still hit the deer, but he would have at least applied brakes.

    Finally, we shouldn’t settle for ‘no worse than human’ when we have more advanced sensors available, and we should call out Tesla for explicitly declaring ‘vision only’ when we already know other sensors can see things cameras cannot.

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    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A human might have still hit the deer, but he would have at least applied brakes.

      You’re making quite the assumption there.

      I’m not saying we need to settle, I’m saying it’s useless to share that example if we don’t have actual numbers to compare the stats between human driven miles and miles in cars with assistance available and insurance companies would have that.

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  • pyre@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    please stop

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