Stop saying random things you don’t understand
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NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 weeks agoplagiarism != art
No matter how many artists’ work is collected, combined, and regurgitated as algorithm puke, it’s still not art and never will be.
VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
And what is it you think I don’t understand?
VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Both neural networks and the current state of ai art
Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Anyone spreading this misinformation and trying gatekeep being an artist after the avant-garde movement doesn’t have an ounce of education in art history. Generative art, warts and all, is a vital new form of art that’s shaking things up, challenging preconceptions, and getting people angry - just like art should.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Oh this is just nonsense. This isn’t “gatekeeping being an artist”. You want to be an artist? Great! learn some skills and make some art (you know, your own art, which you make yourself). And yes I know “all art is derivative”. That is entirely beside the point.
Machine learning is a vacuum connected to a blender. It ingests information which it combines with statistical analyses and then predicts an output based on an algorithm generated from the statistical model. There is nothing “avant-garde” here because all it can do is regurgitate existing material which it has ingested. There’s no inspiration, it can’t make anything new.
VintageGenious@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Sure the style isn’t new, but you can make it work in new pieces that didn’t exist before, you can also merge art styles and combine concepts not blended before. There have been many innovating art kinds from generative ai, like infinitely zooming pieces or beat-synced deformation of faces or working qr code art pieces, mix use of 3d modeling then controlnet to make custom scenes, many things too detailed to be done by a human in a reasonable time.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
We’re not talking about a “style”, we’re talking about producing finished work. The image generation models aren’t style guides, they output final images which are produced from the ingestion of other images as training data. The source material might be actual art (or not) but it is generally the product of a real person (because ML ingesting its own products is very much a garbage-in garbage-out system) who is typically not compensated for their work. So again, these generative ML models are ripoff systems, and nothing more. And no, typing in a prompt doesn’t count as innovation or creativity.
Even_Adder@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
Your comment made my day. Thanks.