Comment on Inside the U.S. Government-Bought Tool That Can Track Phones at Abortion Clinics

• WoodScientist@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You sure it’s still not phoning home? How do you know “off” is really “off” anymore with a modern phone? It’s not like an old flip phone that you can just pop the battery out.

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  • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I absolutely do not trust that an “off” phone is actually off, unless the battery is removed (assuming it can be).

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  • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes. When your phone is off, it is off.

    If you’re paranoid you can buy a faraday bag.

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    • WoodScientist@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The iPhone remote locator function still works when the phone is powered off. It doesn’t work when the battery is completely dead, but it does work when the phone is supposedly “powered off.” This is irrefutable proof that iPhones at least retain some of their functions even when you’ve “turned them off.”

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      • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This is where paranoia comes into play. That’s Apple’s information. Not anyone else’s. If you believe Apple is selling it to this company and ignoring the phone setting that enables it then use the faraday bag.

        But this company is not getting that information directly. It gets your information from cell tower pings at best, and social media scraping at worst.

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    • winterayars@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I don’t want to encourage paranoia here but “off” does not mean “off”. Modern phones are almost never actually “powered down”. If you’re paranoid, turning your phone off is not enough. Leave it behind.

      (Also a gap in your phone’s location history can also be used against you, fwiw.)

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    • Bytemeister@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, and Alexa/Siri/Google assistant don’t eavesdrop unless you use the magic words to activate them.

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