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BallsandBayonets@lemmings.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

It may be too late on this front, but don’t say AI when there isn’t any I to it.

Of course it could be successfully argued that humans (or at least a large amount of them) are also missing the I, and are just spitting out the words that are expected of them based on the words that have been ingrained in them.

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celliern@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
This is not up to you or me : AI is an area of expertise / a scientific field with a precise definition. Large, but well defined.

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frezik@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
AI as a field of computer science is mostly about pushing computers to do things they weren’t good at before. Recognizing colored blocks in an image was AI until someone figured out a good way to do it. Playing chess at grandmaster levels was AI until someone figured out how to do it.

Along the way ,it created a lot of really important tools. Things like optimizing compilers, virtual memory, and runtime environments. The way computers work today was built off of a lot of things out of the old MIT CSAIL labs. Saying “there’s no I to this AI” is an insult to their work.

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- ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  
  Recognizing colored blocks in an image was AI until someone figured out a good way to do it. Playing chess at grandmaster levels was AI until someone figured out how to do it.
  
  You make it sound like these systems stopped being AI the moment they actually succeeded at what they were designed to do. When you play chess against a computer it’s AI you’re playing against.
  
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  - frezik@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    That’s exactly what I’m getting at. AI is about pushing the boundary. Once the boundary is crossed, it’s not AI anymore.
    
    Those chess engines don’t play like human players. We might even say they’re not intelligent at all. But at this point, they are almost impossible for humans to beat.
    
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    ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    I’m not the person you originally replied to. At no point have I dismissed ChatGPT.
    
    I disagree with your logic about the definition of AI. Intelligence is the ability to acquire, understand, and use knowledge. A chess-playing AI can see the board, understand the ramifications of each move, and respond to how the pieces are moved. That makes it intelligent - narrowly so, but intelligent nonetheless. And since it’s artificial too, it fits the definition of AI.
    
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ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Intelligence: The ability to acquire, understand, and use knowledge.

A self-driving car is able to observe its surroundings, identify objects and change its behaviour accordingly. Thus a self-driving car is intelligent. What’s driving such car? AI.

You’re free to disagree with how other people define words but then don’t take part in their discussions expecting everyone to agree with your definiton.

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