Comment on Honey
Akareth@lemmy.world 4 weeks agoRegarding your second point, you also cannot guarantee that small animals like rodents are not harmed in the process of harvesting plants.
Comment on Honey
Akareth@lemmy.world 4 weeks agoRegarding your second point, you also cannot guarantee that small animals like rodents are not harmed in the process of harvesting plants.
Mrs_deWinter@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
But renouncing honey is very easy, while not eating plants would mean starving to death. Since veganism is about reducing harm as far as possible, unavoidable suffering doesn’t make anything non vegan.
Szyler@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
(Strawman)
Killing a few bees when collecting honey
Vs
Killing a lot of insects and rodents when tilling land to grow sugarcane/corn(sirup).
Why discount one not the other?
Mrs_deWinter@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
I assume that for many vegans the specifically exploitative element of farming honey does make a difference to the rather unavoidable collateral damage of agriculture in general (since if we don’t want to starve to death; each and everyone of us, vegan or not, will have to accept that those are happening) - but if you assume that honey comes with less suffering than corn syrup you’re very welcome to replace them accordingly. Based on your tone I assume you’re not a vegan and not actually interested in reducing animal suffering, but I could be wrong.
Szyler@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I am not vegan, but simply trying to understand how honey is bad, but as you say “unavoidable collateral damage of agriculture” or not.
There are many ways agriculture could be less harm, less pesticides, less monotone growing practices, more spread out growing. We do not have to accept these practices to not starve.
I don’t think honey collecting is worse than agriculture (even of direct plants for human consumption), so I don’t think vegans should discount honey.