I would rather spend more time sitting on a train than I would navigating air ports with their security theatre.
Even 2h on a train vs 1h of air port and plane bullshit would be preferred.
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Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 weeks ago
I’m honestly impressed that someone who knows their shit as well as this guy clearly does did the analysis and presented quite a realisticly-achievable plan that managed to meet the completely aspirational goal I had of needing an average 200 km/h travel time for it to be viable for the average person.
26,000 people travelling this corridor every day makes this a complete no-brainer to build.
I don’t really understand how he’s arrived at his “plane time” in the comparison at the end. My own searching suggests he’s added on some random amounts.
| Route | Flight time (according to Google) | “Plane Time” (in the video) | Difference |
|---|---|---|---|
| MEL–SYD | 85 mins | 135 mins | 50 mins |
| MEL–CBR | 65 mins | 120 mins | 55 mins |
| SYD–CBR | 55 mins | 105 mins | 50 mins |
Personally, if I were doing the comparison, I would add a minimum of 1 hour to the plane time to account for the recommended 1 hour early arrival at the airport. Then I’d add on some amount extra to account for the fact that airports are typically less-centrally located than central train stations. Maybe use average public transport time from the centre of the CBD (where it takes you if you just put “Sydney” etc. into Google Maps) to the airport. You can do the same for the rail too if you like. That would improve how rail looks, especially on the Melbourne–Canberra route where it would become properly competitive.
I dunno the difference between “Metro to Metro” and “City to City” as he puts it. Plane time increases for some reason, but rail time doesn’t.
Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 4 weeks ago
sonori@beehaw.org 4 weeks ago
Typically this channel includes the airport arrival wait already, which is where the difference comes from, and the city to city times is to account for time taken to get to and from the city center from the airport terminal.
Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 weeks ago
So is Metro to Metro starting from arrival at the airport? Why the sometimes 50 minute, sometimes 55 minute add on, rather than the general 60 minute guideline?
And City to City does my suggestion of adding transportation to the airport?
sonori@beehaw.org 4 weeks ago
Yes, presumably because 50 minutes is about as close as an experienced passenger can cut it if you get on right as the doors close, which we are also assuming for the train, when he researched that specific flight the time presumably came out five minutes longer than you did, and yes.