How’d the coco thing come through? That sounds interesting. And oooh the lemon sounds fantastic. I love super sour drinks. Any chance you have a more or less recipe for it? 😅
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j4k3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Coco powder sugar and the starch from rinsing some rice… dumb.
I currently have a 4 month BBQ sauce that is in part a fermented stale baguette, but also a ton of other wild ferments, stocks and stuff that have gone through many reductions. So far, the only thing I’ve fermented and drank was some lemons with garlic and ginger with a good bit of honey. That came out super sour like candy in a raw Sour Patch Kids candy but more clean and natural kinda flavor. Most of that still went into sauces. Almost everything I make goes into sauces because fruits turned savory juices, mixed with stock, and reduced make far better flavors than anything that can be bought in a store and were optimised for cheap mass production.
I’m really curious what anyone might be growing at small scales, like on a patio for brewing. Maybe even just bittering agents too?
poleslav@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
j4k3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I never do recipes with anything. The lemons were a combo of a couple of dozen that were juiced and like a cup of brown sugar. The lemons were all fresh off a neighbour’s tree, and the water was all rain from the patio, but I’m a half city block from the Pacific too, so interesting water. I also took around a dozen or so lemons and sliced them into cubes. I removed the seeds and added something like 3 garlic cloves and an equivalent amount of ginger. I was just using a bunch of small like 6oz jars. I filled that like 3/4 with a 3% brine and maybe a couple of tablespoons of honey. They barely did anything and I thought they were all duds. I left them for 2 months and barely had to burp the jars at all. I ended up pulling the contents, drying and grinding them to make a zesty lemon spice that was alright. I poured the remaining juice from the small jars into the raw fermented juice I had made at the same time with just some added sugar that also wasn’t super active. I then crushed and processed a whole crab apple I was given, also locally grown, and let it go off wild for a few days. Then I added this to all the lemon juice combined and added a bunch of brown sugar. That really took off strong and needed to be burped a couple of times a day for a week or more. Finally I let it sit in the fridge for a few months before trying it. That one was really good. Probably the best lemon liquor I’ve ever had.
The rice thing was in a bad container and went sour. It is still curiosity but I can’t really get around using tap water in excess and needing to reduce it for more starch density. The first wash is probably viable but it did not seem particularly active.
About the best thing I’ve tried is pineapple by itself. Pineapple is insanely active to wild ferment. Something about it will go absolutely nuts and the juice has a really good flavor to sip or sauce. I only did a tiny amount. Like I was given an old fruit platter and put each thing in a 6oz jar for the heck of it. The pineapple generated higher CO^2^ pressures in 8 hours than anything else by far that I have tried.
The only other one I’ve done a few times are blueberries that were on the brink of going bad. They basically make a slightly fruity soy sauce flavor that is nothing like blueberries.
I guess you could say my recipe is always, “Thing going bad? Thing go in jar with salt brine.” Deep stuff ;)
poleslav@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
That’s fantastic! The lemon one sounds like a lot of work, but I might have to add something similar to it on my list, because I love sour. And oooh, I do love pineapples. I appreciate the knowledge share here. And hey if brining it and seeing what happens works then that’s the best approach :)
MuteDog@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You could probably grow horehound or costmary in pots on a porch or deck, I grow them in my garden but I don’t think their root system is too huge and they don’t get big like mugwort or gigantic like hops. Obviously coriander works in pots, so that’s another option.