Comment on California’s new law forces digital stores to admit you’re just licensing content, not buying it

• Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  If there is one think we should all have learned by now in this era is that talk means nothing at all: there have to be hard contractual clausules along with personal punishment for those who break them or some kind of escrow system for money meant to go into that “end of life” plan for it to actually be genuine.

  “Valve reps have said” is worth as much as the paper it’s written on and it’s not even written on paper.

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  • SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Except they have proven this so far to be accurate. Games that have long since been removed from sale are still downloadable for people who purchased them at the time. Which is more than others can say.

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    • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Well, as the guy falling from the top of the Empire State Building was overheard saying on his way down: “well, so far so good”.

      “So far” proves nothing because it can be “so far” only because they conditions or something different haven’t yet happenned.

      If their intentions are really the purest, most honest and genuine of all, they will place themselves under a contractual obligation to do so and put money aside for an “end of life plan” which they can’t legally use for other things.

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    • Abnorc@lemm.ee ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      But the steam network is still around. When steam actually shuts down and no longer has the infrastructure to provide downloads for games, I have no idea what their plan is. They hypothetically could provide a way to remove the DRM, but I doubt that it’s something the publishers of games would allow.

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• ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  But we know that is only guaranteed for single player Valve games

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  • SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Blame devs for not creating a system for custom servers, not valve who’s games do have those systems.

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    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      How do you host an Artifact server?

      How do we update it to work on unsupported (read future) systems?

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      • SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You got me on the first one. Artifact is definitely an exception to what I said.

        As for the 2nd question, you emulate old systems.

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• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They can still delete your account and cut you off from your games.

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  • SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Boo hoo, someone say too many slurs on the forums?

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    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Eh… I was just showing that you don’t actually own your games as access to them can be taken from you, that’s all.

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  • Aceticon@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s even more basic than that: if there’s not escrow with money for that “end of life” “plan” and now contractual way to claw back money for it from those getting dividends from Valve now, then what the “Valve representatives” said is a completelly empty promised, or in other words a shameless lie.

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• Deway@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  And yet, they always refused to put it in writing in the EULA. Wonder why.

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