Comment on Youtube has fully blocked Invidious

• Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  “Massive increase” I think needs a source.

  And they rely on the network effect to be the de facto standard video hoster. Every little bit of that network that they carve off while they’re enshittifying brings them closer to the critical point where people can afford to ditch them.

  The logic that they can “afford” to lose marketshare is exactly what will make them keep losing it until people migrate en masse and they lose all of their marketshare.

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  • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    “Massive increase” I think needs a source.

    Don’t have one. Pure speculation. Much like yours, I assume? Unless you have a source to the contrary?

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    • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Source for what? The network effect? I gave you a link, you can read.

      And youtube is enshittifying.

      These are both well-established effects. My sourcing is finished now.

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      • helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Source for what?

        This:

        They’re enshittifying so much, so fast, and eventually there will be a tipping point.

        or this:

        Every little bit of that network that they carve off while they’re enshittifying brings them closer to the critical point where people can afford to ditch them.

        or this:

        The logic that they can “afford” to lose marketshare is exactly what will make them keep losing it until people migrate en masse and they lose all of their marketshare.

        And youtube is enshittifying.

        Yes, you’ve said that several times.

        These are both well-established effects.

        The fact that it exists is not evidence that it’s taking place here.

        My sourcing is finished now.

        LOL no.

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  • Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Youtube is now big enough for not caring about the network effect.

    1. Start companies
    2. make a free product with network effect
    3. gain a lot of users
    4. now that you have your user base, user growth is not as relevant anymore and therefore network effect is not needed anymore
    5. enshitificate for more ad revenue, more tracking and direct subscriptions
    6. profit (finally after decades)

    Capitalism is just fucked 🤷🏻🏴‍☠️

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    • Excrubulent@slrpnk.net ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      What? No, the network effect is why they have a dominant position. The network effect comes from their user base.

      The way you wrote that shows you don’t understand the principle at all.

      I could explain further but you’d have to express interest.

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