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webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 months agoThere is a lot to unpack here. I think you misunderstand how the fediverse we’re part of is designed for the dynamic I’m explaining.
First, I never claimed not everyone can afford self-hosting servers (that do not neef to be) in their basement. You might be mixing up someone else’s comment.
Modern modems are already built with similar hardware to what’s needed for self-hosting a small domain. Computers have become so cheap and accessible that self-hosting is trivial. For example, a Raspberry Pi can host a small website for under $50.
I’m curious where you live that self-hosting is illegal. That’s a law I’d find so repulsive I’d need to break it on principle.
Your ideas about decentralized systems seem contradictory. You say only the rich could host under fediverse, but also believe it’s illegal to self-host?
Dont ask why big centralized services would connect to ours and instead ask what reason we have to connect to centralized systems. I run my own cloud server; it’s cheaper than a subscriptions. People are designing decentralized video hosting systems like PeerTube where everyone hosts their own videos. The proof is all around you here.
The fediverse operates exactly how you say is impossible. The question isn’t why big servers would allow connections, but why I’d connect to centralized domains with so many decentralized alternatives available.
It’s surprising you’re here without knowing this. Maybe it’s a sign decentralization is going mainstream?
You asked a broad outline.
Here’s how decentralized social media and web 3 actually works, right here and now.
1. Instead of one central server, there are many independent servers (instances) run by different individuals or groups.
2. You create an account on one instance, but can interact with users on any instance.
3. When you post, it’s stored on your home instance. Other instances your followers are on fetch and display your post to them.
4. If you want to follow someone on another instance, your server connects to theirs to get their posts. (The ability to connect = federated)
5. Each instance owner sets their own rules and can choose which other instances to federate with.
6. You can move your account between instances, taking your followers with you. (Wip)
7. Popular fediverse platforms like Mastodon, Lemmy, and PeerTube all work this way, allowing cross-platform interaction.
This system allows for a social media experience similar to centralized platforms, but with more user control and privacy. No single entity owns all the data or controls the entire network.
Here is video from the Free Software Foundation which is a great source if you want to learn more about the hows and why.
https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/user-liberation-watch-and-share-our-new-video
atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I haven’t read everything in this comment yet because to be honest it’s a lot. But one fundamental thing I think you misunderstood about what is said is the bit about it being illegal to self host. While there’s no law against using residential broadband service for the purposes of a web server, there’s definitely a lot of sections of the TOS for broadband service that prohibit this and those have been deemed to be legal and enforceable.
I claimed everyone can’t afford self hosting, and that’s because it’s true. Not everyone has the kind of Internet setup or computer that would allow it regardless of what you’re saying about older computer’s and raspberry pi, and that doesn’t even take into account the fact that it still requires technical knowledge, not just of running a server or a network, but also of the security measures that would be required to do so to protect yourself.
The thing is, you hadn’t before now, laid out what you assumed that the fediverse in your vision would function as, you just threw some quick terms at me attached sort of tangentially to the fediverse and assumed that I would know what you meant. I’ll continue reading this when I have more time but, I just don’t understand the motivation anyone would have to join Subway’s instance. Or why they’d want to be federated with it.
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
If my explanation is to complex you dont need to take my word for it.
I did lay out step for step how the fediverse functions though, and i was worried i oversimplified already.
If you really want to learn look for information about “web3” (but watch out for crypto scammers misframing it)
Pretty much al you have been worried about comes from a web2 understanding of the internet.
The fediverse is supposed to be web3 in action. To me its more like a prototype.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’s not that it’s complex. It’s that before I lacked context and now my brain has moved on to other things for the moment.
webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
Understandable, have a good day.