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RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
That is an interesting way of saying Apple is finally supporting an industry standard. By the way what is it with people pretending iMessage is the only messenger? There are many great cross platform options like signal and also some not so good options like WhatsApp. May just be Europe, but the last time I used SMS was in 2021. And I always have used iPhones.
RCS still sucks. It’s a marginal improvement over MMS, and not more.
Basically all the stuff people actually care about are proprietary Google features because they had to use proprietary extensions and send everything through their own servers to make it work.
It’s really not different than iMessage. It’s no more open to any other messaging app or any other OS than iMessage is, and it isn’t really capable of being so unless the standard improves.
This is just… super wrong. RCS is more open than iMessage by virtue of being supported on two different platforms from different vendors. Doesn’t really mean it is fully open, it’s not, but 2 is more than 1.
Most of the stuff people think are RCS aren’t though. They’re proprietary extensions to RCS that only work on Google’s text message apps, transmitted through Google’s servers, with RCS junk as fallback for other services.
It’s not actually meaningfully different than Apple doing iMessage with fallback to RCS now.
Intercommunication is still going to be bad because the standard that carriers support isn’t where all the features are.
Can I do the fireworks effect or the heart baloon in RCS?
The nice thing about SMS is its on everyone’s phone by default.
No apps to download and no accounts to make. Adding someone is a simple 9 digit number.
imessage bridged the gap between bacsic SMS and feature-rich messages. With them both being in one app and handled automatically, it is very convenient to use. While the extra features are limited to apple phones, you can use imessage to universally message any other phone.
Google made a their own thing, RCS, to compete with imessage. They made it an open standard and worked with carriers to make it so any phone could use it. it took Apple 7 years since release to add support.
Finally, you can text pretty much anyone with a smart phone a multimedia message without hassle.
Google did not make RCS; RCS is made by GSM consortium as succession of SMS, Google extended it to add some extra features such as end to end encryption (but only when messages are routed through their servers).
China mandated 5G sold in China must support RCS, hence why Apple added support for this. Since Google is basically banned in China, you can pretty much bet RCS going into/out of China is going to be unencrypted.
So you’re basically stuck between getting inferior unencrypted messages, or routing everything through Google.
Avoid RCS like the plague.
Thanks for the info. I adjusted that section a bit, probably should more effort into the edit. Will read up on it some more in near future.
My point about the simplicity of using the “stock*” messesing app is still relevant for non-tech people. Grandpa doesn’t want 6 different messesging apps. The easy phone number/pre-installed/near-universal/moslty cross-platform nature of them is a huge advanatge. Only downside, it has a pricy subscription called “the phone bill”.
*i say stock in this case to pretty much include any app that uses your phone number and accepts sms/mms from another phone. For most people, thatll be the stock message app their phone comes with.
Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 1 day ago
Calling RCS an industry standard is a bit… Questionable. Still, I’m happy to see Apple finally implementing it so there’s a good cross vendor texting implementation.