Comment on We're losing our digital history. Can the Internet Archive save it?

• LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  What?

  Yes, I know about the web archive. And I know that you can pull data without being logged in. But 100% of that data can be DMCAed at any point.

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  • crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Somebody can always just get an offline copy of that data, that kever hits the internet so company’s won’t know where it is so it can’t be dmca’d.

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    • thejml@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      A local copy on a single person’s storage that isn’t available for future researchers, isn’t exactly Meeting the requirements of this article.

      I have a copy of slashdot when they turned it pin for April fools day. Does anyone know that? No. Could someone find it if they wanted to read it? No. Is that helpful for preservation? No. To be helpful I’d have to make it available and searchable. You know what that does? Makes it so it can be DCMA’d.

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      • crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        They can always make a torrent of it and share it like that if they are in a country with barelly any dmca laws.

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    • LodeMike@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Actually no. They make it difficult and “don’t allow” people downloading data from the wayback machine.

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      • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Funny you’d say that. If you manipulate the link and add if_ or fw_ after the date code, you can most certainly download files directly from the wayback machine.

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  • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Wanna watch a trick?

    tinyurl.com/missingf35

    You can follow that link, it’s perfectly safe, and rather funny no less. It links to the archive…

    web.archive.org/web/…/7667184419.html

    Note the if_ after the date/time code. That bypasses their banner. None of my links are anywhere on the frontend of the archive, you literally have to know every link to find my archives.

    And most of my archives aren’t even of websites, most of them are direct file downloads of older operating systems and games and stuff. Not like I’m about to share any of those here though.

    I’ve been doing that for years and they haven’t found or removed a single thing I’ve archived. If they ever do, well so be it, but none of it is on the frontend, and the links are so obscure that there’s basically zero chance of anyone just randomly guessing them.

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