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Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

Hell no, fuck Bluesky. There is no reason not to adopt ActivityPub when trying to build an open, federated Twitter alternative. Except for power and control over the platform, its core protocol and ecosystem. Screw these guys, use Mastodon or anything on the Fediverse.

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cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
except they adopted atproto because it fixed issues with activitypub portability and sharing

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- Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  This is their stupid excuse. They could still implement ActiviyPub as a secondary federation protocol. (Bluesky <-> Bluesky via ATProto, Bluesky <-> Fediverse via ActivityPub). They decided against it. It’s an intentional choice, and they’re just making up excuses.
  
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  - cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    i mean that’s pretty much already done via third party (i can already follow mastodon users on bsky and bsky users on mastodon);
    
    github.com/snarfed/bridgy-fed
    
    (shameless self promotion; my bsky account on my mastodon instance: tech.lgbt/@netkitten.net@bsky.brid.gy)
    
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    Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    There are 3 issues with this:
    
    This is a third-party project, not an official part of Bluesky. Bluesky was never meant to work with ActivityPub, that was a clear design choice. This is just a workaround.
    
    It’s opt-in, meaning most accounts will never get federated, because people just aren’t aware that something like this exists. This especially applies to new users.
    
    It relies on a centralized service, Bluesky and ActivityPub servers don’t talk directly to each other, which would be required for true federation. Federation is always decentralized, this is the exact opposite.
    
    I don’t understand why anyone should use Bluesky with cheap hacks to attempt to fix Bluesky’s poor design choices and or utter incompetence, if they could just use Mastodon and federate with the Fediverse over ActivityPub by default.
    
    From a user perspective, Bluesky is just Mastodon with a recommendation algorithm. There is no other protocol required for this, everything could easily be done using ActivityPub exclusively. I will never care about Bluesky, since it tries to be the new Twitter, but the enshittification of Twitter began when they introduced their crappy algorithm, instead of just displaying tweets of accounts you follow in chronological order (like Mastodon does it).
    
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