Well…
Ipv6 is needed for peer to peer networks, easier for vpn and full mndgoru if you want to have a vps…
With it, you can avoid Cgnats and home Nats and usually it is faster and more reliable than ipv4.
So, see it for yourself…
Comment on first nas network struggle
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I disabled ipv6 across the board. I don’t want my internal devices to be individually routable from the outside. I don’t have a million devices. It’s complexity I don’t want.
Is there anything I’m missing?
thelittleblackbird@lemmy.world 2 days ago
HelloRoot@lemy.lol 2 days ago
Every time I try to use Ipv6, I run into dozens of weird issues and bugs and my selfhosted stuff becomes unusable/unreliable.
I don’t know where the issue exactly lies in the chain of networking, but it sure is annoying as a mitherfuckef to debug. As far as I can tell none of my stuff is the problem and the issue lies either with my ISP or VPS provider.
For now, I removed the AAAA entries and suddenly everything works without any hiccups. Wake me up when those issues are solved.
ogy@fedia.io 2 days ago
yeah I also have issues leading back to my ISP
4am@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
PBKAC
thelittleblackbird@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Don’t know what to say,
I maintain a double stack since 5 years and apart of some small nuisance I never had a real problem.
Ipv6 has been with us for more than 20 years, and It is true that to have that fine grain control in ipv6 you will need to go to a prosumer devices, but those are not that expensive and if you have a home lab you should check on them anyway…
Things are mature despite your bad experiences
HelloRoot@lemy.lol 2 days ago
Not as mature as ipv4 apperantly.
ipv6 works fine on my intranet.
If big company A or B can’t get their shit together don’t blame the victim. But if you don’t believe me, I invite you to a debugging session.
ogy@fedia.io 2 days ago
I think it varies massively by ISP. my ISP has not implemented IPv6 properly so it causes all sorts of grief for me
4am@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
NAT is not a security feature. This is a poor recommendation. Just because something has a globally-routable address does not make it accessible from anywhere.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I didn’t say it was a security feature. But I also don’t really want my ISP knowing how many devices are in my house.
jake_jake_jake_@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Depending on how your ISP is doing IPv6, the typical way would just route the entire prefix to your router, and the ISP would not know how many addresses are used, in the sense that there is no table. If your ISP is keeping data of flows from your prefix then it could start counting unique, but there isn’t really a reason to and it wouldn’t be accurate. Some devices pull and use more than one address, and quiet devices might not get picked up by flows which are typically sampled at a ratio.
slazer2au@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Do you not run a firewall? Because your concerns are 100% fixed with a statefull firewall.
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 days ago
Or, just completely bypass any config by simply not using IP6 for an environment where it offers no advantage
slazer2au@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I’d rather not perpetuate the 30 year mistake NAT has truely become.
ogy@fedia.io 2 days ago
I ended up having to. I'd have liked to keep IPv6 on, but my router wasn't letting me permanently route the IPv6 traffic to my nas. something about my ISP using dynamic addresses so it would change periodically, and the router wouldn't accept the format of IP addresses that I generated.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I think I worded this poorly. My point about being individually routable is that, that’s the only benefit IPv6 seems to have. Unless I’m missing something.