Comment on Brazilian court orders suspension of Elon Musk’s X after it missed deadline

• suction@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  VPNs can be blocked by governments or worse, the data can be decrypted.

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  • merde@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    TOR, you write. How are they going to block TOR?

    when a government blocks one vpn server, another sprouts in its place. Not like some governments aren’t trying. Yes, they “give trouble” to some people in some places for VPN or TOR use but that may be preferable to those people compared to what they may have to go through if their connection wasn’t encrypted.

    here the question was about blocking VPNetworks to prevent Xitter use and that sounded implausible (the judge also have understood this afterwards).

    VPNs can be blocked by governments or worse, the data can be decrypted giving you a false sense of security.

    How would they decrypt this data without having access to the VPN server itself (or probably your device)?

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    • Treczoks@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The handful of people so addicted and desperate for xitter that they turn to TOR to get their daily dose of poison can probably just be ignored.

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    • suction@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Never said they can block TOR. They run TOR entry nodes as honeypots. And don’t forget, authorities can and will use just metadata (what you connected to when) to prosecute you without ever caring what you actually transmitted.

      But go ahead and call me clueless, I am not trying to educate here. Just annoyed that people trust these technologies so much without really understanding how they get caught.

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      • merde@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        some authorities try to use metadata for prosecution, yes, but it doesn’t suffice. They have to correlate undeniably that metadata and whatever information they may have collected from other nonencrypted platforms.

        one entry node on TOR that collects the crumbles that passes through this node… good luck to anybody trying to make sense of that mess.

        I’ve been following these cases for years now, you write “i’m not trying to educate”, but it seems like you’re trying to inform the clueless among us about the dangers of using VPN or TOR. With a claim like that, it would be nice to have some reliable sources linked in your comments

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