Comment on USA | “Genocide Will Continue”: Fury Grows as Harris Vows to Keep Biden’s Gaza Policy
MagicShel@programming.dev 2 weeks agoI haven’t downvoted you myself. My habit is if I’m responding to someone I don’t downvote because that must mean I think it’s a worthwhile conversation. I know not everyone does that. I didn’t reply right away because I have a family and shit to do in the morning.
That said, this is a bit of moving the goalposts, right? You said nothing that would benefit lower and middle class. I can’t say what you would easily support. I don’t really have a response to this for that reason.
demesisx@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
No problem. Thanks for not being one of those downvotes then.
I’m happy to lay out what a non-corrupt politician could offer that would excite me and get me to vote for them:
I could go on all day. Basically, you could easily offer what Bernie had on his platform in 2016 and get me to be enthusiastic about the Democrats.
MagicShel@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I agree with a decent chunk of that, not all, and even what I disagree with, it’s more like lukewarm agreement because I think it would cause as many problems as it fixes. I was just trying to respond to your frustration. Not aggravate you further.
Kamala isn’t everything anyone would want, but the things you want to see are more likely during or asa following to a Harris administration. I know none of this mollifies you. There are urgent matters that are hurting us to do slowly and in half measures. But Harris moves us closer than Trump and for most of us that’s all we can do.
Of course I have a Midwest, swing state perspective. And’s I have the perspective of watching things change over 50 years. I know many of the policies you and I want would lose Kamala the race. I don’t want her to lose either because the far left stays home or because she’s forced to adopt policies that lose the states that the election hinges on.
If you ask me, gerrymandering is the root cause of much of the polarization and extremism in this country and I think it is urgent to end it or at least let democrats draw the lines. And we need to look at the judiciary. That all takes a lot of time, unfortunately.
I could go on and on with how much I agree with you and why. But we have two choices, and one moves this country in a better direction whether a little or a lot, and the other makes us all a hell of a lot worse off. I can’t endorse any statement that says they are basically the same.
But, friend, keep fighting. You are right about a great many things. I just implore you to do it strategically and not let “great” be the enemy of “better.”
demesisx@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
Not sure why it made me reply to myself instead. Pasting in comment here:
That’s fair. Thanks for at least discussing it with me. I beg to differ on the whole, “we need to appeal to the Centrists and reach across the isle” trap that the two party system put your perspective into. That reaching seems to conveniently only happen in one direction. It’s the one-way valve of corporatism!
Anyway, thanks for the discussion. It was fun making that list. 😂
ravhall@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
You’re asking for too much all at once. Don’t forget, these people are people and those people have to get things passed within a group. A single administration wouldn’t be able to do that, even if they tried.
Of your list, what are you top 5 desires from a candidate regarding reform/actions within the country?
demesisx@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
I just made a list that I could think of. The top ones are at the top. Then, I just went into fantasy mode, obviously. TBH, I wanted to keep going. Haha.
Here’s the only three I will absolutely fight someone over, though.
ravhall@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
I do think it would be a lot easier if we did not have any parties at all. However, I don’t think anybody’s going to go for that. I do agree with you that more than two would be a very good thing. I think the only way to accomplish that is by removing the electoral college and putting ranked voting In place. That is going to be difficult because it’s not up to the federal government how a state handles its voting.
Guaranteed healthcare would be nice.
I don’t want innocent people to die any more than you do. I also don’t think the US should be handing out weapons and cash to Israel anymore. However, there are relationships in place that are favored by a lot of powerful people. It’s also not a topic that “center” people care about. So when it comes to the presidency, pushing that topic is not going to win them any votes.
It sucks, I know. One step at a time. And the next step is preventing Trump from getting into office again. I’m not overjoyed about the road we are on either, but that is the road we are on at this moment.