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MagicShel@programming.dev 2 weeks agoAT LEAST SHES NOT TRRRRRUMP!!!
Good enough for now. When we’ve accomplished your list (which I agree with), maybe we can all vote in a more nuanced way than which of the two will be better.
anti-anything that would materially improve the conditions of the low and middle classes in the US
This bit is just hyperbole, though. I get your frustration, but it’s objectively untrue and even if it was, doing nothing would still be better than actively sabotaging us.
demesisx@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
If I’m wrong, please educate me.
What has she proposed that is even remotely leftist? Name even one of her plans that I would easily support that doesn’t have:
sneaky means-testing to prevent impossibly large swaths of those that need it from qualifying
poorly-disguised handouts to ultra rich multinational corporations that are being marketed as populist reforms
weaponized identity politics (making it a crime to say anything critical of or even boycott 🇮🇱)
MagicShel@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I haven’t downvoted you myself. My habit is if I’m responding to someone I don’t downvote because that must mean I think it’s a worthwhile conversation. I know not everyone does that. I didn’t reply right away because I have a family and shit to do in the morning.
That said, this is a bit of moving the goalposts, right? You said nothing that would benefit lower and middle class. I can’t say what you would easily support. I don’t really have a response to this for that reason.
demesisx@infosec.pub 2 weeks ago
No problem. Thanks for not being one of those downvotes then.
I’m happy to lay out what a non-corrupt politician could offer that would excite me and get me to vote for them:
I could go on all day. Basically, you could easily offer what Bernie had on his platform in 2016 and get me to be enthusiastic about the Democrats.
MagicShel@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
I agree with a decent chunk of that, not all, and even what I disagree with, it’s more like lukewarm agreement because I think it would cause as many problems as it fixes. I was just trying to respond to your frustration. Not aggravate you further.
Kamala isn’t everything anyone would want, but the things you want to see are more likely during or asa following to a Harris administration. I know none of this mollifies you. There are urgent matters that are hurting us to do slowly and in half measures. But Harris moves us closer than Trump and for most of us that’s all we can do.
Of course I have a Midwest, swing state perspective. And’s I have the perspective of watching things change over 50 years. I know many of the policies you and I want would lose Kamala the race. I don’t want her to lose either because the far left stays home or because she’s forced to adopt policies that lose the states that the election hinges on.
If you ask me, gerrymandering is the root cause of much of the polarization and extremism in this country and I think it is urgent to end it or at least let democrats draw the lines. And we need to look at the judiciary. That all takes a lot of time, unfortunately.
I could go on and on with how much I agree with you and why. But we have two choices, and one moves this country in a better direction whether a little or a lot, and the other makes us all a hell of a lot worse off. I can’t endorse any statement that says they are basically the same.
But, friend, keep fighting. You are right about a great many things. I just implore you to do it strategically and not let “great” be the enemy of “better.”
ravhall@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
You’re asking for too much all at once. Don’t forget, these people are people and those people have to get things passed within a group. A single administration wouldn’t be able to do that, even if they tried.
Of your list, what are you top 5 desires from a candidate regarding reform/actions within the country?