Comment on USA | “Genocide Will Continue”: Fury Grows as Harris Vows to Keep Biden’s Gaza Policy

demesisx@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• MagicShel@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  AT LEAST SHES NOT TRRRRRUMP!!!

  Good enough for now. When we’ve accomplished your list (which I agree with), maybe we can all vote in a more nuanced way than which of the two will be better.

  anti-anything that would materially improve the conditions of the low and middle classes in the US

  This bit is just hyperbole, though. I get your frustration, but it’s objectively untrue and even if it was, doing nothing would still be better than actively sabotaging us.

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  • demesisx@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If I’m wrong, please educate me.

    What has she proposed that is even remotely leftist? Name even one of her plans that I would easily support that doesn’t have:

    • sneaky means-testing to prevent impossibly large swaths of those that need it from qualifying

    • poorly-disguised handouts to ultra rich multinational corporations that are being marketed as populist reforms

    • weaponized identity politics (making it a crime to say anything critical of or even boycott 🇮🇱)

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    • MagicShel@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I haven’t downvoted you myself. My habit is if I’m responding to someone I don’t downvote because that must mean I think it’s a worthwhile conversation. I know not everyone does that. I didn’t reply right away because I have a family and shit to do in the morning.

      That said, this is a bit of moving the goalposts, right? You said nothing that would benefit lower and middle class. I can’t say what you would easily support. I don’t really have a response to this for that reason.

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      • demesisx@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        No problem. Thanks for not being one of those downvotes then.

        I’m happy to lay out what a non-corrupt politician could offer that would excite me and get me to vote for them:

        • election reform
        • single payer
        • anti-genocide/ cutting off the infinite money tap that the AIPAC/IDF command
        • prosecute Israel (and the politicians that allowed them in the US should also be tried in front of The Hague) for crimes against humanity
        • prosecute George W. Bush and company for the Iraq war. Imprison them for the rest of their lives.
        • publicly execute Jon Bolton
        • student loan reform (without bullshit means testing)
        • reparations
        • police DEmilitarization
        • reforming the Supreme Court
        • immigrants no longer in cages (rather than ramping up putting immigrants in cages and just marketing it differently)
        • end the embargo on Cuba
        • penalize countries and corporations financially for pollution
        • reward other countries and corporations financially for green policies
        • dissolve the two party system and bring the DNC and GOP up on treason charges
        • give Edward Snowden immunity for his “crimes” and protect him as a whistle blower
        • fund the fediverse and other decentralized technologies that have a direct positive effect on democracy
        • socialize and break up Amazon into twenty companies
        • socialize Google
        • fund RISC-V chip technologies instead of closed source technologies to bring chip manufacturing back to the US
        • socialize Meta

        I could go on all day. Basically, you could easily offer what Bernie had on his platform in 2016 and get me to be enthusiastic about the Democrats.

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• stink@lemmygrad.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Libs in 2016: “trump is anti-american and his policy on funding the police, the death penalty, building the wall, fracking, and he will destabilize the middle east!!! He is a threat to democracy!!!”

  Libs in 2024: “Actually trump wasn’t hard enough on border control, we removed anything about the death penalty from our platform, we love fracking now, and we will support a pariah state no matter what. But it’s okay because MY team is doing it.”

  Please open your eyes people, Kamala is to the right if Trump’s policies from 2016, it’s pathetic to blindly support that witch.

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• Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  There is no true leftists to people who actually want to push people away from being left

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  • demesisx@infosec.pub ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Did that make grammatical sense when you read it back to yourself?

    I suspect you think you just dunked on me. Great dunk……

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