Yeah but some games like Final Fantasy run at 30 FPS capped and they suck.
They should start moving those games from fixed 30 FPS to a higher FPS. Doesn’t even need to be fixed 60 FPS. If they enable VRR between 30 and 60/120 they will massively improve the experience.
I understand that some TVs can run VRR down to 20 or 30Hz.
It’s because the developers made a horseshit design choice to go over the top on graphics to specifically target 30FPS. Multiply the power by 10 and tell them everyone has that and they’ll do the same thing, diminishing returns be damned.
That said, PlayStation has, and has convinced most developers to use, performance options to choose between graphics and frame rate.
FF16 in quality mode runs at 1440p 30 FPS locked upscaled to 4K. And it decreases resolution sometimes in my experience while playing it.
And in performance mode runs at 1080p targeting 60 FPS.
Both modes can be improved by better hardware. That’s my point.
Now things like “30 FPS locked, sucks” or performance mode targeting 1080p is not enough quality is just my personal opinion. Of course some people enjoy 30 FPS or 1080p on a 4K big TV.
I think the point here was if you’re going to give the console a boost you shouldn’t have to choose between better graphics and better performance anymore to make it worthwhile (that’s how I read it anyway).
Both 16 and Rebirth do have a performance mode you can use but if you want the prettier graphics you’re stuck at 30fps.
I mean, I agree that I’d rather have 60fps be the standard with the better graphics.
But that’s the argument that the other person should have made rather than “they are locked at 30 and they suck” since technically that’s not true (on either counts if you enjoyed the games).
FF16. I’m talking about running quality mode (which still doesn’t do native 4K it does upscaling lot of the time) at higher FPS than 30 with a better PS5 Pro hardware.
amenotef@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yeah but some games like Final Fantasy run at 30 FPS capped and they suck.
They should start moving those games from fixed 30 FPS to a higher FPS. Doesn’t even need to be fixed 60 FPS. If they enable VRR between 30 and 60/120 they will massively improve the experience.
I understand that some TVs can run VRR down to 20 or 30Hz.
conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
That’s not because of the hardware.
It’s because the developers made a horseshit design choice to go over the top on graphics to specifically target 30FPS. Multiply the power by 10 and tell them everyone has that and they’ll do the same thing, diminishing returns be damned.
That said, PlayStation has, and has convinced most developers to use, performance options to choose between graphics and frame rate.
amenotef@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
FF16 in quality mode runs at 1440p 30 FPS locked upscaled to 4K. And it decreases resolution sometimes in my experience while playing it.
And in performance mode runs at 1080p targeting 60 FPS.
Both modes can be improved by better hardware. That’s my point.
Now things like “30 FPS locked, sucks” or performance mode targeting 1080p is not enough quality is just my personal opinion. Of course some people enjoy 30 FPS or 1080p on a 4K big TV.
conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
They’re not going to be meaningfully improved by an APU, which is the whole point of a console.
If you want to use a $2K GPU to play games, do that. But PS5’s power is perfectly fine.
garretble@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Wait, which FF runs only at 30fps? The last two (16 and rebirth) have performance modes like has become the standard this generation.
Drusenija@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I think the point here was if you’re going to give the console a boost you shouldn’t have to choose between better graphics and better performance anymore to make it worthwhile (that’s how I read it anyway).
Both 16 and Rebirth do have a performance mode you can use but if you want the prettier graphics you’re stuck at 30fps.
garretble@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I mean, I agree that I’d rather have 60fps be the standard with the better graphics.
But that’s the argument that the other person should have made rather than “they are locked at 30 and they suck” since technically that’s not true (on either counts if you enjoyed the games).
amenotef@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
FF16. I’m talking about running quality mode (which still doesn’t do native 4K it does upscaling lot of the time) at higher FPS than 30 with a better PS5 Pro hardware.