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Maybe it’s both of our bias but I stopped seeing new cars without an integrated head unit in 2010, the Tesla model s came out in 2012. Yes the base models didn’t have the informant system but I will die on the hill that it’s not the EV that brought it to the masses. Longer loan options so people could get a higher end car and pay on it for 7years. Along with people wanting gps in their cars, play music, and hands free laws, it was easier to just get a car that you could tap a button to answer your phone.

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sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The integrated head unit isn’t the problem, my 2007 Prius has one and it doesn’t have any way to phone home (no navigation built-in, for example).

I don’t know about the rest of the industry, but at least with Toyota Prius, navigation/internet access became standard around 2020. All of that is standard on most EVs, except maybe the base Leaf (it’s standard on Chevy Bolt though).

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- femtech@midwest.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Ahh I gotcha. Yeah, I like my EV but with the reports coming out that they are selling data to insurance providers I would love to disconnect my connection to the Internet but I believe it has a esim from Verizon.
  
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  - sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah, and digging that out could be a huge pain, as it’s usually buried beneath the dashboard, so it would probably take an hour or two to get to, even if it is user-removable.
    
    I’m not going to buy any vehicle that I cannot block from accessing the internet, so my search for a car is a bit complicated. Instead of just looking at price and specs, now I also have to look for what kind of spyware it has and if it can be easily disabled.
    
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- noxy@yiffit.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  EVs certainly didn’t create the option, but it became standard soon after EVs shipped with those features as standard.
  
  correlation doesn’t prove causation - this was going to happen even if EVs never took off.
  
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  - sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Maybe, but it requires someone to move first, so I think EVs accelerated it.
    
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    noxy@yiffit.net ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Why do you think that? What exactly about the motor spinning from electrons instead of hydrocarbons makes any difference?
    
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