Comment on Questions about the safety of Tesla's 'Full Self-Driving' system are growing

istanbullu@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Humans are not safe. 40k of them get killed in vehicle accidents every year in the US alone. Self driving doesn’t need to be flawless. It only needs to be safer. If perfection is the only thing we’ll settle for then that’ll cost us hundreds of thousands, if not millions of more lives untill we get there.

  If we replaced every vehicle on US roads with self driving cars that were twice as safe of an driver as average human is, there would still be 50 deaths every single day. That’s 50 daily news articles on Lemmy about how “not safe” self driving cars are despite them saving additional 20k lives every year.

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  • istanbullu@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There is no independently verified data that shows Tesla self driving is actually better than humans.

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    • ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I never claimed it is.

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      • istanbullu@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Yes you did: lemmy.ml/post/19661763/13303063

        You should stop lying.

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  • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Let us know when it even gets to half as good as a human.

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    • ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      About a year ago

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      • zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Citation desired.

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    • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The Tesla ones don’t use lidar and seem pretty shotty, when I was in Tempe I took a Waymo on 2 occasions, and that was better than the majority of drivers I have ridden with. Not perfect though, it seemed to mostly struggle with sub 5 mph tight spaced things in parking lots. (It would stop then go again if there was any chance something might jump in front of the car, where a human would assume a person wouldn’t do that). Understandable though, as I have watched kids do it

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