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Pain isn’t some objective thing. You feel pain differently just within your own body, based on where and what kind of damage is being done. A plant reacting to damage is pain, just because it’s not the same as us doesn’t mean it isn’t pain. We know plants react to damage, and that’s what pain is, they even signal other nearby plants of danger.

We absolutely boil or bake mammals and other living things alive, and we do even worse things to them. Whole lives of suffering from issues from being bred for specific things to horrific living conditions and then killed in any manner of inhumane ways.

No, stones don’t feel pain because they aren’t alive. They have no nervous system of any kind. Trees are alive, react to damage and even signal other nearby trees of danger. What we see as pain is obviously subjective, but that does in no way take away that any living being also feels pain. Pain isn’t some thing that exists in itself, it’s the brain or cells sending signals that something is damaging us.

I seriously don’t understand how you could think stones feel pain, they have nothing to make those signals.

I didn’t get any sleep last night so it might just be my wonky brain but isn’t “at 140x the force of gravity” an incredibly weird way to say it?

Grated Parmesan cheese.

I’ve written about this before but it seems self checkout is very different in the US (and probably some other countries) from here in Sweden (and, again, other countries). A lot of people prefer it here and it’s easy so to use and you rarely need to call for help. The descriptions in several of these comments about it requiring babysitting and cashier assistance was only a thing for a while when it was new about 20 years ago until the tech got better. Now it’s rare to see more than one person, even in big stores, needed to help and they often do other things around the self checkout area because they are so rarely needed. I’m sure part of it is cultural, people in the US are definitely more prone to try to cheat it or do other things that forces the stores to have that babysitting.