rabiezaater

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• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago⁩:

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• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago⁩:

  My point exactly.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago⁩:

  K

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago⁩:

  Why?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago⁩:

  If that’s the case, then why did you bring up wikipedia vs encycopedias? You’re losing me bud.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago⁩:

  Why is medical research special? Why is that the only place that AI is valid, and not science or engineering or art or anywhere else?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago⁩:

  What did people use for knowledge before libraries? Elders, right?

  What did people use for retrieving knowledge before AI? Wikipedia/Google. Before that? Libraries.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago⁩:

  Again though, why can that use case not be applied other places? Why is medicine special? You seem to have a specific application in mind, so how about you just explain what that is so I can evaluate it on its merits?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago⁩:

  It is not apples and oranges. Before people had libraries, they went to the elders for knowledge. It’s very probably that when that happened, some of the elders felt spite towards libraries, because they replaced their roles in society, or diminished them.

  Today, AI is doing the same for libraries, albeit with a few minor intermediary phases of the internet as a whole and global searching for information. You used to need to go to the library to read the biography of George Washington. Then someone invented wikipedia. Then someone invented an algorithm that can take sources from Wikipedia and other places and combine them into a coherent natural language response.

  So no, not apples and oranges at all, very much the same thing.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago⁩:

  I don’t know the specifics, but not sure how that is relevant. Why does the field it’s being applied in make a difference? Is medicine the only field you view as truly impactful and valuable? Or do you really view the down sides as that dramatically terrible that the only possible way those downsides could be justified is by saving a life?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Thanks for the response, I appreciate your perspective. Definitely a reasonable take overall. I very much agree on the regulation side. It is pretty mental how unregulated it has been, especially with some of the projections about the impact that their purveyors claim it will have on society.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  My intent was to try to understand why people feel the way they feel. If I disagree with a reason someone has, am I just supposed to be like “oh, ok”, and move on? Is that the proper protocol here if I am supposed to be understanding? Am I not supposed to give any rebuttal to any points whatsoever and just read through the thread without replying? Is that what you would consider a true “understanding” approach?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  In depth is one thing. Logically sound and valid are another.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Certainly curious to see sources, but last I checked the industry was an insignificant contributor to electricity use overall. That number is obviously growing, but when I say insignificant, I mean negligible.

  Again though, happy to see data that shows otherwise it you have a source to provide.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  That’s a counterproductive and unhealthy dispotion to have. No topic should be considered “not worth discussing” particularly one so ubiquitous and impactful.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  So you’re saying that medical is the ONLY single place where the pros out weight the cons? You said we need to eat, so what about agriculture? What about science/engineeing in general? Why the arbitrary line in the sand at medical?

  Also, if AI is so faulty and flawed, why would you want to use it in situations where lives are on the line, but condemn it’s use for lower stakes situations

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  How is it a false equivalence?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  I appreciate your distinction between capitalism and AI. Many attribute the maladies of hyper late stage capitalism (enshittification, data hoovering, algorithmic engagement tuning, etc) to AI, when one is just a symptom of the other.

  I agree on the overhype and hope for the industry. I do not want LLMs to go away, and there are plenty of open source non commercial LLM projects out there. I look forward to the day when I can just download a local LLM assistant that has all the capabilities of the best models today. Once someone figures that out, I think the corporations who have poured hundreds of billions into massive data centers will start collapsing.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Are you saying I am being disingenuous in my intentions by making counter points in a discussion? Is reflecting people’s ideas back to them the only way to understand them?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  I don’t disagree, the current administration is that dumb. Hopefully their popularity continues to drop like a stone and in an election cycle we will be off dumb island.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  The whole “doing serious damage” part is where I disagree. The damage attributed is usually due to the ultra wealthy and capitalism, not due to AI itself.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Right. That’s my entire point though. There are some positives, and some negatives. The dialogue I have seen around AI has basically boiled down to “AI is killing the planet and making us dumber”, when the reality is actually a lot more nuanced.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Ok, so just to clarify you basing your hate off of anecdotal evidence and a fear of getting fucked over by corporations (which has been happening long before and completely unrelatedly to AI)?

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Both. I think people don’t even realize that there are non llm AI applications, and it has done a disservice to the field in general.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Glad to see some sanity for once on here. It’s definitely not all good, but it’s not all bad either, and when people attribute all the evils of the world to it, they are being disingenuous.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Fully agree that children should not be exposed to ai content, and age restrictions would be warranted (which ironically I think a lot of people on the fediverse would not be happy about).

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Ok, that’s one study. Here is a review of dozens of studies that shows a positive impact on education.

  https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666920X25001699

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Yea, I am really getting disillusioned with the discussions on the fediverse around a lot of important topics, not just AI. I could picture a response from someone in this thread as “good, fuck off AI shill”. Not a very productive or healthy place for a discussion, as much as I support the goals and motivations behind the fediverse. Apparently there is an anti-ai zealotry that makes real dialogue impossible.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  I gave positives along side the negative, which most people vigorously against AI (which seems to be all of the fediverse) refuse to acknowledge as positives. I do have an agenda, which is to try to understand why there is such a blind and vigorous hate for something I and a lot of people find quite useful, and which could be beneficial for productivity if people use it effectively.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Why do people hate AI so much?⁩ ⁨⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:

  Totally agree on the smaller scale local models. But this is my exact point here, it’s not inherently evil, it’s the implementation and systemic issues that are the issue. Yet people act like all AI is inherently evil and wrong.