julian

@informapirata ah! I realize that there may be a difference in understanding here.

I think when you are asking about moving topics to a remote category, you're intending to also share that discussion to the remote category, yes?

So, for example, you see a good discussion that comes in uncategorized, and you share it with a community on Lemmy.

Yes?

It makes sense, but I am not able to do that from a protocol point of view because there's inadequate federation vocabulary to achieve this.

So I could make movable, but it won't show up on Lemmy or Piefed unless that software supports whatever vocab I come up with.

So it's partly a technical limitation as well.

In general, moving topics between remote categories is disallowed because it's misrepresentation. You're limited to moving uncategorized topics to a local cid, topics between local cids (of course), and cross-posting topics to local categories.

There are some gaps in federation, as @informapirata states. I've been actively working toward finding and closing those gaps.

@informapirata @sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net @kichae@wanderingadventure.party

@informapirata indeed, I fixed a number of federation issues between NodeBB and Lemmy, in v4.14.0, and again since. I'd recommend updating to the latest stable version and running those federation tests again.

@cagatay lastly if there are spots that you find NodeBB lacking, please do continue to discuss them here or open issues. We're receptive to improvements to NodeBB, and if they're not too niche of an improvement we'll usually be happy to put it into core.

Otherwise plugins are where things should go 🙂

Hey @cagatay, that's a good question, and one well worth asking.

Right off the bat I'll say that if the majority of this work were not sponsored (by the NLNet foundation; @nlnet@social.nlnet.nl), then it wouldn't have happened, or happened as quickly. They were instrumental in accelerating the development of the AP integration.

To me the question isn't directly one of value for money, results over spend, etc. Its a more existential question of whether forums are able to persist in this world of fast-paced social media, hot takes, sound bites, and memes. Forums have always been closer to the kind of "slower" web, a more deliberate web, and the "network" part of forums only extended as far as the site itself.

A lot of forum admins think that's perfectly fine, and we support that world view. I wanted to explore what it meant if a forum could interconnect, not only with users on its own platform, not only with other NodeBBs, but to a worldwide fediverse of social networks. That's the potential that has been realized, but I'm still trying to figure out forums' place in this network.

It seems very much so that forums don't tend to be generalist "anything goes" networks — usually there's an overarching topic. That makes it a less than ideal fit for the fediverse, there's a lot of noise, and finding the signal is key.

So that's where I've been spending my time these past few months.

I personally think the AP integration was well worth it, but I am very strict in my stance that AP is a choice, and full federation isn't always the right fit for every community.

Thanks, I've found a bug where retries were not sending in the (saved) digest, and updated activitypub.space

Can you let me know if you are still seeing them? Since they only occurred on retries, it was likely not something that happened often.

@silverpill@mitra.social are they new activities or resends? I want to know whether this is an issue that has been fixed (but stale queue items persist), or whether it's an unfixed issue.