BoredPanda

@BoredPanda@sh.itjust.works

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨My dad fought the Nazi's they lost. The world knows it. What is the deal with their recent resurgence?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  I guess we have to disagree. Growth is an inherently good thing in my view, and I don’t based that on capitalistic ideology. Without growth, the metaphorical pie is finite. What does this mean? It means there is some distribution of this pie, however equal or unequal. Now on one side you will have people like you trying to make the distribution more equal. On the other side you will have war lords, dictators, and power hungry individuals trying to grab more of the pie for themselves. All of you will have to resort to violence to make that happen.

  And the magic of economic growth is that you can enrich the world without having to physically fight other people to steal their shit.

  The bottom line is, we would have even more imperialism if we did not have economic growth.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨My dad fought the Nazi's they lost. The world knows it. What is the deal with their recent resurgence?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  I have to differ on your last point. I don’t think capitalism is necessarily at fault, nor must the working/middle classes be struggling for fascism to emerge. If anything, quite the opposite. It is the better off countries that end up turning fascist. All fascist countries are/were first world countries, in various states of advanced development.

  I think it would be more accurate to say that fascism is an extreme form of imperialism, because they are ultimately very similar sentiments. A more powerful group taking advantage in various ways, of a less powerful group. Now you could say, “it’s all the same thing”, capitalism, imperialism, fascism, it’s all the same “hierarchy is the ultimate source of evil dynamic”, but it seems to me that this just reduces all these concepts to absurdity.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨My dad fought the Nazi's they lost. The world knows it. What is the deal with their recent resurgence?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  I was thinking of Israel actually. I don’t think the comparison between the Nazis and the Soviets is apt. The ideological motivations are quite different. And it’s a typical Nazi talking point to point at the Soviets and try to argue that they were worse.

• ⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨My dad fought the Nazi's they lost. The world knows it. What is the deal with their recent resurgence?⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩:

  There is no “recent resurgence”.

  • 1. Nazis never went away. Underground Nazi groups, as well as fully fledged Nazi political parties were common throughout post-WWII Europe.
  • 2. The people fighting the Nazis weren’t ideologically much better than them. The Americans were still racist as fuck. The British and the French were imperialist world dominators. All of these allies were involved in their own genocides. -3. Nazism and similiar ideologies are fundamentally based on in-group bias, and that is just something psychological. There will always be people who are more open to others and people who are less open to others. -4. If you look at recent wars, you will see that even the non-Nazi, “moderate”, “liberal”, “centrist” partys can have blood on their hands and be complicit in atrocities very much reminiscent of the evil the Nazis did.

  I think the bottom line is, you have to unlearn a lot of the just-so narratives that you have been taught about the world.