Submitted 1 year ago by PizzaMan@lemmy.world to conservative@lemmy.world
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-15-minute-city-conspiracy-162fd388f0c435a8289cc9ea213f92ee
You know, I didn’t think it a conspracy before I read the article, but thats some good evidence. Like of course 15 minute cities are going to be used as an excuse to curb travel freedoms, it all makes with what ap news outlined. Just incentivize people with 15 minute cities, fine the non-compliers like in Oxford, make travel as inconvient and confusing as possible.
I wonder if /fuckcars is grassroots or astroturf now.
Like of course 15 minute cities are going to be used as an excuse to curb travel freedoms
Cities with good city planning are no more at risk than cities with shitty city planning of travel freedoms being taken. So we may as well have good city planning that gives people as many options (freedom) as possible to choose their method of travel. Right now we don’t have that freedom, everyone is de-facto forced to own a car.
This is objectively a conspiracy theory with no supporting evidence.
fine the non-compliers like in Oxford, make travel as inconvient and confusing as possible.
Except that’s not how that fine system works:
Drivers will still be able to travel to any part of the city at any time, but may have to take a different route.
And that fine system is a completely different thing from a 15 minute city:
The 15-minute neighborhoods proposal, meanwhile, aims to ensure that “every resident has all the essentials (shops, healthcare, parks) within a 15-minute walk of their home,” the fact sheet says. The goal is to “support and add services, not restrict them.”
I wonder if /fuckcars is grassroots or astroturf now.
It’s in the direct dis-interest of oil groups, so it’s opposition is astroturfed, and /r/fuckcars grassroots.
unless youre willing to accept extreme population density with strict regulations on living space, a “15 minute city” is completely fictional
It absolutely isn’t. It does require rezoning so that parks, stores, and medical facilities can be better mixed in with residential.
Take a look at Amsterdam. They’re not perfect, but they’re also far closer to a more ideal city plan. Their zoning allows for mixed use, they have protected bike lanes and trails, they have comprehensive public transportation, etc.
You don’t need that dense extreme population density.
incredibly small hometowns have next to no decent jobs - I grew up in a 3k population town. there’s nothing there, it’s been dying for decades.
TJD@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Conspiracy or not, it’s a shit idea
PizzaMan@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Having better city planning is a shit idea?
oldGregg@lemm.ee 1 year ago
TJD@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
I live in one, and it sucks. Everything is crowded in, land is insanely expensive, and there’s nowhere to park. Being able to walk to a store is hardly worth the downsides.