The Good Space - Mastodon users shares their finding about use of the fediblock lists and finds huge flaws in using fediblock lists

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• SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Crowdsourced blocklists don’t work. Never have, never will. It’s far too easy to manipulate.

  Especially when people also add “guilty by association”. Follow a person that someone doesn’t like? Have fun on the blocklist and not having a chance to get off of there

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  • F4rtEmp3r0r@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Clique blocklists are great for fedidrama but bad for the fediverse as a whole

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• Jackthelad@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I just moved servers because I found out that the admin of my previous server had an enormous list of servers blocked with these block lists.

  They’re a stupid idea. Sure, block servers that are hosting illegal or extremist content, but do it one-by-one so you know exactly what it is you’re blocking. Otherwise, leave me to make the choice about whether I hide a server or not.

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  • Kichae@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    No, that's not actually reasonable given how federation works. You're not viewing content on other instance, you're viewing content imported from other instances. Copies hosted locally. This puts admins in the position of actively hosting content they may find objectionable if it's allowable on other sites and they're federating with those sites.

    Your instance is not some neutral community browser for remote communities. It's not the equivalent of Chrome or Firefox. It's the equivalent of a website hosting guest authors, and the website admins are responsible on some level for what they choose to host.

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• rikudou@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  That’s why we’re building Fediseer - it allows you to specify which instances you trust and further filter it by reasons and other criteria.

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  • cwagner@lemmy.cwagner.me ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • can@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I think you just need to stay federated?

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    • rikudou@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No. It’s not an automated whitelist, it’s an automated blacklist (for some). If you want to avoid getting blocked, nothing has changed - don’t spam, don’t post illegal stuff. And if your instance starts spamming , be responsive in resolving the problem.

      Fediseer doesn’t change any of that, it just provides an easy way to mark instances as not good.

      You need to “beg” (which in reality is just “ask”) only if you want to become an active member of Fediseer.

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  • petunia@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    no receipts?

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    • rikudou@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What do you mean?

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