We had “coding without coders” in late 90s (maybe 2000s) with VB and Access databases. Some of my coworkers maintained such “software” previously written by not-a-dev.
And then there was “low code” fad about ten years ago? There was “coding” with diagrams and such, like Scratch but for serious people.
And what will regular developers do? Probably the same old shit, digging in decades-old, hastily-written, and now LLM-generated code, making it all work, and adding functionality. While “architects” and management will draw diagrams (with AI now!), and try to abstract everything into the cloud (and now into AI probably, somehow)
While I personally don’t like AI, I do think it is changing things. I don’t think it’s ever safe to run code without oversight from an actual programmer, but AI will likely affect the number of programmers being hired in a non negligible way.
There was “coding” with diagrams and such, like Scratch but for serious people.
Yep. Genesys IRD is kinda good (well-tested), Genesys Composer I hate, and recent cloud Genesys workflows are not usable for anything but demos without pain.
Yaky@slrpnk.net 6 days ago
We had “coding without coders” in late 90s (maybe 2000s) with VB and Access databases. Some of my coworkers maintained such “software” previously written by not-a-dev.
And then there was “low code” fad about ten years ago? There was “coding” with diagrams and such, like Scratch but for serious people.
And what will regular developers do? Probably the same old shit, digging in decades-old, hastily-written, and now LLM-generated code, making it all work, and adding functionality. While “architects” and management will draw diagrams (with AI now!), and try to abstract everything into the cloud (and now into AI probably, somehow)
MountingSuspicion@reddthat.com 6 days ago
While I personally don’t like AI, I do think it is changing things. I don’t think it’s ever safe to run code without oversight from an actual programmer, but AI will likely affect the number of programmers being hired in a non negligible way.
jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de 6 days ago
If it’s run in a good sandbox, it’ll be safer than most of the code you run.
Then you add in controlled interfaces/gateways to give it “just enough” power to do something interesting… and you audit the hell out of those.
Risk is something that has to be managed, because it usually can’t be eliminated.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 6 days ago
Yep. Genesys IRD is kinda good (well-tested), Genesys Composer I hate, and recent cloud Genesys workflows are not usable for anything but demos without pain.