Those who are hosting on bare metal: What is stopping you from using Containers or VM's? What are you self hosting?

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• 51dusty@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  my two bare metal servers are the file server and music server. I have other services in a pi cluster.

  file server because I can’t think of why I would need to use a container.

  the music software is proprietary and requires additional complications to get it to work properly…or at all, in a container. it also does not like sharing resources and is CPU heavy when playing to multiple sources.

  if either of these machines die, a temporary replacement can be sourced very easily(e.g. the back of my server closet) and recreated from backups while I purchase new or fix/rebuild the broken one.

  IMO the only reliable method for containers is a cluster because if you’re running several containers on a device and it fails you’ve lost several services.

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  • kiol@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cool, care to share more specifics on your Pi Cluster

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    • 51dusty@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I followed one of the many guides for installing proxmox on Rpis. 3node, 4gb rpi4s

      I use the cluster for lighter services like Trilium, FreshRss, secondary DNS, a jumpbox… and something else I forget. I’m going to try immich and see how it performs.

      my recent goto for cheap($200-300) servers are Debian + old Intel Macbook pros. I have two Minecraft bedrock servers on MBPs… one an i5, the other an i7.

      I also use a Lenovo laptop to host some industrial control software for work.

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• erock@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Here’s my homelab journey: bower.sh/homelab

  Basically, containers and GPU is annoying to deal with, GPU pass through to a VM is even more annoying. Most modern hobbyist GPUs also do not support splitting your GPU. At the end of the day, it’s a bunch of tinkering which is valuable if that’s your goal. I learned what I wanted, now I’m back to arch running everything with systemd and quadlet

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• OnfireNFS@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This reminds me of a question I saw a couple years ago. It was basically why would you stick with bare metal over running Proxmox with a single VM.

  It kinda stuck with me and since then I’ve reimaged some of my bare metal servers with exactly that. It just makes backup and restore/snapshots so much easier. It’s also really convenient to have a web interface to manage the computer

  Probably doesn’t work for everyone but it works for me

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• bhamlin@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It depends on the service and the desired level of it stack.

  I generally will run services directly on things like a raspberry pi because VMs and containers offer added complexity that isn’t really suitable for the task.

  At work, I run services in docker in VMs because the benefits far outweigh the complexity.

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• CaptainBasculin@lemmy.bascul.in ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Bare metal is cheaper if you already have some old pc components layjng around and they are not bound to my host pc being on. My PC uses a 600W power supply to run while the old laptop running my Jellyfin + pihole server use like 40W.

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• otacon239@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  After many failures, I eventually landed on OMV + Docker. It has a plugin that puts the Docker management into a web UI and for the few simple services I need, it’s very straightforward to maintain. I don’t cloud host because I want complete control of my data and I keep an automatic incremental backup alongside a physically disconnected one that I manually update.

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  • kiol@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Cool, how are you managing your disks? Are you overall happy with OMV?

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    • otacon239@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Very happy with OMV. It’s not crazy customizable, so if you have something specialized, you might run into quirks trying to stick to the Web UI, but it’s just Debian under the hood, so it’s pretty manageable. 4x1TB drives RAID 5 for media/critical data, OS drive, and a Service data drive (databases, etc). Then an external 4TB for the incremental and another external 4TB for the disconnected backup.

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• StrawberryPigtails@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Depends on the application. My NAS is bare metal. That box does exactly one thing and one thing only, and it’s something that is trivial to setup and maintain.

  Nextcloud is running in docker (AIO image) on bare metal (Proxmox OS) to balance performance with ease of maintenance. Backups go to the NAS.

  Everything else is running on in a VM which makes backups and restores simpler for me.

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