Well, this can only end well ...
Tesla to lay off everyone working on Superchargers, new vehicles
Submitted 6 months ago by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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athos77@kbin.social 6 months ago
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I mean . . this is the end. Everything after this is just paperwork and scrabbling for scraps.
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
One bad quarter and they’re doing this? I don’t even.
Hypx@fedia.io 6 months ago
The company is pretty much a big scam. There’s a reason why Moskovitz calls it the next Enron. Musk would turn it into a crypto company if he thought it would pump up the stock more. As a result, the actual business side of Tesla doesn’t really need to work.
lemmus@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Other manufacturers should have stuck with CCS.
SuperIce@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Why? NACS is a lot better. It’s not owned by Tesla, other charging networks will be using it and replacing CCS with NACS as well
AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 6 months ago
It was developed by Tesla and they lobbied the government to change the standard from CCS to NACS.
Originally, the government said they’d make CCS the standard, so many car companies made their vehicles CCS. Obviously, this would be mighty expensive for Tesla since they’d have to upgrade their infrastructure. So instead, they claimed that out of the goodness of their hearts, they’d release the NACS specification to all car manufacturers.
Once Tesla did that, the government changed their tune and made NACS the standard. While you are correct that NACS can handle more power, CCS was having a newer version developed (with the same connector) which would have likely been the standard moving forward, had Tesla not been successful in their lobbying.
Resonosity@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Granite@kbin.social 6 months ago
No longer a car company then…
qwertyqwertyqwerty@lemmy.one 6 months ago
This is such a great point. If ChatGPT suddenly started manufacturing cars, would you consider purchasing one? I would not consider buying a car from a company that doesn’t consider itself a car manufacturer. It would be like considering buying a Fisher Price phone when looking for your next cell phone.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Hey hey - the Fisher-Price phone is a classic of modern design. Beautiful, functional, and simple. It cannot be bested in it’s feature categories of fun, whimsy, and delight.
ZagamTheVile@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Does it come with less bloatware than my s23? Because if it does, I’ll consider it.
nikaaa@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Crazy. I’ve been a long-term Musk supporter (because of meaningful business targets), but these recent events I cannot support. Laying off employees while not at the same time demanding Universal Basic Income on a state level (so that no single corporation is disadvantaged) is a death sentence to the worker population, and that, I cannot support. I’m out.
noxy@yiffit.net 6 months ago
Did you support him when he was falsely accusing a rescue diver of being a pedophile?
sebinspace@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Mate, be willing to accept people when they finally change their mind. Otherwise they’ll find they might aswell stay in their echo chamber.
Namaste.
Raxiel@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That was the point the mask slipped for me
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I stopped being a Musk supporter when I found out he had a twitter.
I still think all of his companies are doing (to various extents) genuinely cool and useful things, but Musk in recent years at least has shown himself to be a terrible manager (not to mention a terrible person)
mycodesucks@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Maybe the Saudi investors who own him have finally called in the favor and told him it’s time to put an end to the EV transition…
Jaysyn@kbin.social 6 months ago
Some hits from the current shareholder voting:
simplejack@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Maybe I skimmed that too quickly, but it looks like this is just the execs on top of those departments, not the people working within them.
admiralteal@kbin.social 6 months ago
Musk told workers that Tesla "will continue to build out some new Supercharger locations, where critical, and finish those currently under construction."
Sounds to me like the plan is to finish what is already under contract and do no more. I sure am glad the US authorities committed to that north american charger standard... what's even the status on getting a full specification for it including third-party development at this point anyway?
I can't pull a quote for the new vehicle development team's situation because Tesla basically just keeps making the Model 3 with barely even incremental improvements to it, and even that one has totally inconsistent build quality vehicle to vehicle. Unless someone thinks the Cybertruck is going to save them -- hah.
AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 6 months ago
I absolutely hate that Tesla was successful in lobbying the government to use NACS instead of CCS. You can tell that it was lobbyists because seemingly overnight, the government changed from giving grants for CCS (never owned by a single company) to only giving grants for NACS (a proprietary standard that was opened to other companies so that Tesla wouldn’t have to pay to change their chargers). A new, better CCS plug was even being developed, one that on paper could handle more than NACS.
billiam0202@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It’s kinda buried:
All of which makes the decision to get rid of senior director of EV charging Rebecca Tinucci—along with her entire team—a bit of a head-scratcher.
poo@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Well that’s embarrassing
Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Red_October@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yes Elmo, I’m sure that will solve your problems. Well done.
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 6 months ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The Information reports that last night, the company’s erratic CEO Elon Musk emailed workers with the news that he has dismissed a key pair of executives—one responsible for the Supercharger network, and the other head of new vehicle development.
The electric car maker posted its quarterly results last week and they paint a poor picture, with shrinking sales and plummeting profit margins.
While Tesla once had a strong first-mover advantage and benefited from Musk’s marketing savvy, the company has frequently ignored the many hard-learned lessons of the auto industry.
Many Tesla fans had been holding out hope that Musk would debut a cheap Model 2 EV in recent weeks.
Instead, the tycoon promised that robotaxis would save the business, even as both of its partially automated driver assistance systems face recalls and investigations here in the US and in China.
Musk also told staff that he would ask for the resignation of any executive “who retains more than three people who don’t obviously pass the excellent, necessary and trustworthy test.”
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squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Is that because the automotive industry decided to go with the North American standard for rapid chargers instead of Tesla’s? If so, while heartless, it makes sense from a business standpoint.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 6 months ago
?
The NACS connector is the Tesla connector. Tesla won this format war. So what’s for them to be salty about?
The only wrinkle is that older Teslas require a reflash to work with the new (or rather old, same as CCS) communication standard that would be used by NACS equipped non-Tesla charging stations.
squirrelwithnut@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Ah ok. I thought they were different. I actually just listened to a podcast the other day about electric vehicles, and the guest expert mentioned wanting about them being a NA standard, European standard, and Tesla. Maybe I just misunderstood him.
EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 6 months ago
The electric car company who spent years pissing off liberals is faling? whodathunkit
TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 6 months ago
Yeah to this day I don't understand this "genius" business move. My redneck conservative dad sure as hell isn't buying an electric vehicle anytime soon.
AA5B@lemmy.world 6 months ago
So the company had a downturn, and has to cut costs to maintain profitability. Charging is not the core product, so why spend money on it. It almost makes sense.
Musk does have a habit of making large single-minded bets and it surely takes a giga-ego to do that. His rise was based on some of those being correct, but we’ll see if this one is