Comment on Existing California solar customers may get blindsided with net metering cuts

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• Corvidae@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  EV car batteries have been used for the purpose of storing daytime-generated solar energy to power a home during the night.

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  • trailee@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    If I had an expensive EV with an expensive battery in it, I would not want to be wasting my precious limited number of charge cycles on running my house.

    Unless you’re talking about a home-scale project to repurpose retired EV batteries for stationary storage. I’ve only ever read about grid-scale versions of such projects.

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    • Corvidae@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      …I’ve only ever read about grid-scale versions of such projects.

      Your EV battery can now power your home, yes really. - The Washington Post

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      • trailee@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That article describes exactly what I would not want to do - subject my expensive vehicle to additional discharge/recharge cycles thereby shortening its battery’s useful life prematurely.

        Lithium batteries are pretty great (except for when they catch fire and are nearly impossible to extinguish), but their performance degrades slightly with every charging cycle. You may have noticed that after a year or two your phone no longer makes it through the day without extra charging, because its total capacity is reduced.

        The same thing happens with EV batteries (translating into shorter driving range) but they’re much larger and more expensive to replace. Moreover, when replaced, the old batteries are still capable of useful work with lower capacity, so it’s excessively wasteful to dump them into the hazardous e-waste stream for whatever passes as recycling.

        There are companies that are collecting those used EV batteries and using them for electric grid storage, which sounds like a great way to extend their lifecycle and to acquire useful equipment at bargain basement prices. That’s what I meant when I said I’ve never read about it being applied at the scale of a single house.

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• unconfirmedsourcesDOTgov@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  This is exactly what PG&E is hoping for, yes. ⭐

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  • inbeesee@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s a win-win. Those batteries are thousands of bucks.

    It fully fucking misses the point, we should own the power we produce from our own fucking homes.

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• roofuskit@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Shifting costs to other people is the end goal.

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