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• Spectacle8011@lemmy.comfysnug.space ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  how this? through Firefox I experience ms websites the same as with edge. google websites? experience is full of small differences from chrome

  Firefox is my main browser. In my experience, Microsoft services don’t work at all on Firefox. I can’t say I use much of either company’s services, but Google tends to be more lax in some departments. For example, the Google Pixel is the only Android device that allows you to securely unlock the bootloader and install another operating system on it, rather than forcing you to root the device.

  I’m not a fan of either company, but I get the impression Google is less actively hostile toward their customers than Microsoft. For the most part.

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  • rodolfo@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    i work for a company that produces dotnet software. I’m my comments you’ll find this, and that firefox is my browser of choice. so we obviously manage access via ad, we use azure, etc. . when it comes to develop Linux native code, i fire up my vm, and I can even use the teams web version on firefox (tbh, only chat though) , so

    In my experience, Microsoft services don’t work at all on Firefox

    i don’t really know where this is coming from. would you like to elaborate?

    the idea that ms is hostile towards its customers is so apple propaganda from some 20 years ago… I mean, a very old refrain… just please stop beating this now decomposed horse. had u written something like

    ms like apple like google/alphabet are private ruthless faceless us corporations, ready to suck the soul of anything that got one

    that, i could agree on. anyways, peace, obviously.

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    • Spectacle8011@lemmy.comfysnug.space ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      i don’t really know where this is coming from. would you like to elaborate?

      As I said, I don’t deal with a lot of Microsoft or Google services, though I do run my email through Microsoft Exchange. It took me roughly three hours to figure out how to download the Microsoft Office executable from the Microsoft website. I tried everything on Firefox, Brave, Chrome, even on my Mac. In the end, I needed Microsoft Edge to get it. I don’t remember the exact details because this was 2 or so years ago, but requiring a particular version of a Blink-based browser just to download Microsoft Office seems…unnecessary.

      I remember needing to use Brave for Microsoft Teams, but I could be remembering wrong. When I think of Microsoft being actively hostile toward their customers, I think of about ten years ago when Microsoft tried to prevent Xbox owners from sharing physical disk games with the Xbox One. Of course, Apple is an easier target than Microsoft for customer-hostile behavior. Frankly, these megacorporations all blend together for me.

      I don’t have any particular feelings about Microsoft, and after using Windows for 20 years, I don’t have any major complaints with it (from memory; it’s been a while), aside from the obvious. If there’s any particular corporation I despise, that would have to be Amazon.

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      • rodolfo@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        on mac i can’t honestly argue about anything. apple policies, practices, hw, sw, services, etc. are something i try to stay as far away as possible. dunno if it’s still the same, but as an example VLC on mac was practically nothing and broken compared to linux and win version, because, you know, quicktime (or what it was/is called the native media player). also is it possible that mac makes really hard to access ms services (or that ms makes really hard to access their services on a mac? although they already make sw for that os… mmh…)? anyways, just for completeness, on win I had no trouble managing office (again, don’t recall what that iteration was called, but it was the one that allowed you to install office in 5 machines with one license) with firefox. have a nice day

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• floofloof@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Microsoft don’t allow Bing chat to run in anything but Edge. I don’t know if there are others, but that’s the one I’ve noticed recently.

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  • rodolfo@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    true, but bing chat isn’t all ms services. although I’ve heard of plug-ins that could do that, dreadful as it is just the idea

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