Comment on Lemmy.World's !News sides with Mark Zuckerberg in Censoring Palestinians

• Five@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  How do you distinguish between opinion and propaganda? Its entirely credible that Pepe Escobar sincerely believes the positions he holds.

  Should the corpus of every news source that includes opinion pieces that serve the interests of a war criminal state be banned?

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  • PugJesus@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    How do you distinguish between opinion and propaganda? Its entirely credible that Pepe Escobar sincerely believes the positions he holds.

    Oh, so if he sincerely believes in genocide, it’s fine.

    Should the corpus of every news source that includes opinion pieces that serve the interests of a war criminal state be banned?

    If they continuously make apologia for that war criminal state’s war crimes, especially ongoing ones, yes, absolutely.

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    • Five@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Oh, so if he sincerely believes in genocide, it’s fine.

      Regardless of our conflict, we can agree that Pepe Escobar is a shithead.

      There’s an old joke that goes:

      Two people, a Hexbear and a Solarpunk were arguing. One said,

      “On my server I can reply to an admin and say “I don’t like how you’re running things on this instance!”

      “I can do that too!”

      “Really?”

      "Yes! I can reply to an admin and say, “I don’t like how the SLRPNK admins are running things on their instance!”

      My concern is that the criteria you are using to justify banning The Cradle would also ban most United States media as well. I value the principle of a free press, and what you’re proposing is inconsistent with those values. It’s easy to call for the ban of information that disagrees with us, but unless we develop a more nuanced approach to combating propaganda, we risk replicating the values of the authoritarian systems we oppose.

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      • PugJesus@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        My point is just that banning The Cradle is not inherently an illegitimate move. You may not agree with it, and I honestly wouldn’t see the point unless someone was spamming The Cradle’s articles or editorials, but it is a legitimate point to consider that they carry water for Russian propaganda, and in allowing that source, misinformation multiplies and makes the mods’ jobs harder.

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    • Shyfer@ttrpg.network ⁨4⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      By that logic, the NY Times should be banned as a source. They’re opinion section is chocked full of basically the pro US point of view and defending Israel (including a memo advocating genocide denial). One-sided coverage, poorly sourced, it all applies to them, too.

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