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Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 2 months agoThe majority of the young people in Russia are genocidal imperialists. Support for extermination of other countries is of course higher in the older generations, but that doesn’t change the fact a solid majority of young (e.g. 18 to 29) are genocidal imperialists.
I understand that it might be reassuring to repeat platitudes like “young people of russia are against the war”, but this is clearly not true.
Even the framing is suspect. What do you mean by “the war”; the full-scale invasion? In Ukraine, the war started in 2014 with annexation of Crimea and russian invasion of Donbas.
Petter1@lemm.ee 2 months ago
May I know where you found the info that a solid majority of young Russians (well, I think you only talk about those that did not already leave) supports the war?
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 2 months ago
A tiny % left and even among them there are many genocidal nationalists and fake opposition types.
Look up any research on the topic Russian Field, Levada, LSE List Experiment on support from the war among Russians.
I believe the general trend was that every age category had a majority and that at one point the 30-40 age group had slightly lower support for russian annexation and destruction of Ukrainian identity that the 18 -29 age group.
Petter1@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I don’t know those sources, but I fear those aren’t really representative Maybe someone wants to dig, I have no time for that right now…
Mistic@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I look into those regularly. Those are trustable sources, but you have to be very careful with statistics during war periods.
What do you think the majority of people hear when asked, “Do you support actions of Russian military in Ukraine?”. They hear, “Are you a traitor?” and answer accordingly. The majority refuse to answer at all. So, it’s not exactly representative.
What we look at instead is questions that are not this direct. Such as “Do you think Russia should continue or start peace talks?”. The majority (58%) is for peace talks. This number has increased since September 2022 by 10%, whilst the number of pro-war people decreased from 44% to 34%. Their quality also changed. For “absolutely should start peace talks” went from 21% (out of all votes) up to 26%, whilst for “absolutely should continue military actions” went from 29% down to 21%.
The longer things continue, the less support Russia’s government has. That’s what can be said for certain.
Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I hear that all the time, “but what about the challenges of polling under an autocracy?”, as if they were the first one to think about it.
But if you show alternative methodologies that account for preference falsification and the estimates for preference falsification turn out to be low, you never hear back from people.