Comment on The Google antitrust ruling could be an existential threat to the future of Firefox | Financials show 86% of Mozilla's revenue came from the agreement keeping Google as Firefox's default search engine

cmysmiaczxotoy@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• cybersandwich@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  There are dozens of us!!

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  • LoKout@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    At least 2, at the moment.

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    • stoly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Three

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      • ThePancake@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        Four… maybe even $10/mo after the manifest v3 chaos hits in full force.

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• kakito69@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  You’d need a hundred million people sign up for that $5 subscription to make up for Google’s bribe.

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  • deleteme@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Your math is off. It would take 8.5 million people donating $5 a month, to equal the 510 million a year from Google.

    My math (please correct me if I am wrong):

    $510 million / 1 year

    $ X / 1 month?

    $510 million / 12 months = $42.5 million / 1 month 

    $42.5 million / $5 per person a month = 8.5 million people a month

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    • kakito69@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      You’re right. My European ass sees revenue and salaries as monthly

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    • merc@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Also, Mozilla says that it spends only $220M on software development expenses, so if 100% of the money went to that it would only require 3.7 million people paying $5 per month.

      But, IMO, if the Google money spigot is turned off, it might be that other companies that rely on web browsers (Apple, Amazon, Netflix, Microsoft, etc.) will want to spend at least a few tens of millions on Firefox. That would mean that end-users wouldn’t need to support the entire cost of developing it.

      Right now, everyone except Apple uses Blink which is a Google project tied to Chrome. Since Google has been found to have been illegally abusing their monopoly, the status of Chromium / Blink has to be uncertain. It would be smart insurance for these companies to ensure that Firefox doesn’t go away in case something happens to Blink.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Yup, and I could do $5/month, perhaps more if they really seemed to need it. I don’t know if there are 8-9M, but maybe.

      They really should be working on improving their revenue streams. I think they should work on privacy-friendly transactions, like a Mozilla Pay where I put money into some kind of bucket, then purchases are paid out of that bucket. The system would work on something like GNU Taler, and they’d take a small cut for money going into and out of the system (or transactions within the system). I could use those funds to pay for online services, avoiding ads, tips to people online, or Mozilla services.

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    • uranibaba@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Is it not <br> 5 x 12 = 60 $510 000 000 / $60 = 850 000

      $60 is one year of subscription for if user. 850 000 users need to pay 60 dollar per year to amount to $510 000 000.

      (Or 510 000 000/5 = 10 200 000 users per month to reach the same amount monthly.)

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      • theherk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        510 / 60 = 8.5

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  • brad_troika@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    You mean 510 million divided by 12. That’s “only” 42.5.

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