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Just because moderating platforms to eliminate Nazis only drives them to build their own spaces doesn’t make deplatforming them the wrong move. I prefer them existing in the fringes rather than being accepted into the mainstream.

Tolerance for Nazis is only possible if you are ignorant of history, or if you are actively evil. “Stupid or Evil?” Isn’t a great place to exist, but I have to conclude one way or the other every time I run into this “why don’t we just hear the Nazis out?” narrative…

We know enough about Nazis already to tell them to go fuck themselves before they even open their mouths. Giving them a voice is an act of violence.

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x00z@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
You’re doing the same as what others are trying to do to any open platform. You’re claiming that me trying to defend absolute freedom of speech is the same as me asking why we don’t hear them out. And as long as you believe that is the same, I’d rather not waste time discussing this.

Absolute freedom of speech goes both ways, indefinitely. If a platform is too heavily moderated and hides stuff like this, not only does it create the illusion that it does not exist, it also sets a precedent for abuse by the platform owners. The biggest example at the moment is how Musk uses X to suppress arguments that don’t fit his narrative.

Filter bubbles are a very new concept and are much worse than coming across people spreading hatred and being able to tell them to suck it.

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- todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
  
  claiming that me trying to defend absolute freedom of speech is the same as me asking why we don’t hear them out.
  
  On privately operated online social spaces, that’s exactly what you’re asking.
  
  Absolute freedom of speech goes both ways, indefinitely.
  
  That’s what free speech absolutism is a stupid idea that doesn’t make sense.
  
  The biggest example at the moment is how Musk uses X to suppress arguments that don’t fit his narrative.
  
  You think the biggest threat to free speech is Elon Musk moderating Twitter like an idiot? You and I are clearly not worried about the same things in regards to suppression of speech…
  
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  - x00z@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    
    You think the biggest threat to free speech is Elon Musk moderating Twitter like an idiot?
    
    No, I said it’s the biggest example.
    
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    todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago
    Let’s just forget about the book burning…
    
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